Another sad shipping story

[MasterBlaster84]

Well it's not over yet guys.

eBay ruled in my favor and instructed me to ship the item back. They also said they would issue the refund after the seller signed for the package. I immediately received another crazy vicious email from the seller stating she would refuse the shipment. All but one of her bizarre tirade emails was sent through eBay so they have full record of her behavior. I emailed eBay asking for another method to get the refund since the seller stated in an email she would refuse the shipment and pointed them back to the threating, vicous tirade emails she sent through eBay. I'll be curious to see what eBay's response will be.

Oh and without any contact at all she initiated a UPS pick up of the boombox, I wasn't home during all three attempts to pick it up. I wouldn't have handed it over anyway since I would lose all leverage and rights to everything, I wouldn't have the boombox or my money the seller would have had both.

I'm going to post all the sellers letters for you guys to see when this is over.

 

[eldorado]

I BIN'd a farely rare and desireable boombox at the end of February, one of the few boxes I truly would like because of how it represents the 80's. All was good since the seller put in the listing they would double box the boombox, I knew it wasn't perfect but felt secure in that it would arrive in fairly good shape. Well a few days ago as I was walking up to the porch after work I saw this 6 inch wide flat box sitting by the door. I can't hardly describe how my heart just thudded to the ground, so I picked it up and went inside. I sat the box down and walked away from it for several hours because I was so distraught over the packaging. I finally opened it about 8 pm (see pic) and found that it was intact but it had some damage in numerous places. I put it back for a few days to cool off then I contacted the seller with very courteous emails.

What followed were denials, accusations and the typical sob story by the seller as well as a supposed email from the seller to an attorney alleging internet fraud.

I've filed with eBay to get a refund since the seller obviously doesn't want to work it out and she's flipped out.

Can you guess what boombox this is or at least used to be:

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it almost falls in the comic section....

ridiculuos packing!!!

 

[MasterBlaster84]

John I wish it was funny and maybe later it will be to me but the outrageous rantings, denials, accusations and threats are unbelievable. This has almost completely deflated my boombox spirit this week, this is by far my worst eBay experience.

 

[Superduper]

I share your feelings Don. I have had many that were not pleasant in the least. Each one of those got me depressed to the point where I vowed never to buy another ebay box again due to the agony of it. Each time, I eventually started buying again and had good experiences too. So it is with life as well. If someone wants to ruin your day badly enough and persistent enough, they will succeed. Don't worry, it will be over soon. Ebay fully protects the buyer at the seller's expense so do not worry. The seller will not win on this. Sadly, in the end, winning is also losing.

 

[Johnny]

I've always shipped back by ups and always receive my refund as soon as its dropped off - notice I did not say "signed for" - just dropped off!

I would ship it back ups and put the tracking number into the paypal claim and as soon as its delivered you're in the clear and will get all your money back (less what it costs to ship back).

 

[MasterBlaster84]

Johnny,

This is a copy of part of the email eBay sent me.

You must ship the item with tracking and signature confirmation and submit the tracking information in the Resolution Center. Once the the item has been delivered to and signed for by the seller, you will receive your refund.

Notice it says Delivered To And Signed For By The Seller.

I'm blown away that the seller has ignored the fact of her non existent packing even after I gave her the link to UPS's minimum standards and how to pack page.

 

[MasterBlaster84]

I share your feelings Don. I have had many that were not pleasant in the least. Each one of those got me depressed to the point where I vowed never to buy another ebay box again due to the agony of it. Each time, I eventually started buying again and had good experiences too. So it is with life as well. If someone wants to ruin your day badly enough and persistent enough, they will succeed. Don't worry, it will be over soon. Ebay fully protects the buyer at the seller's expense so do not worry. The seller will not win on this. Sadly, in the end, winning is also losing.

It's still a shame, that the boombox was received the way it was. Unlike many other boomboxes, the bolt box is an easy box to ship, and pack...to ensure safe arrival...shame on that seller for shipping it the way it was shipped, and to harass MB making him out to be the guy in the wrong...

-gsbadbmr

You are both right.

I'm shocked the bolt box even made it to me in one piece and it's even salvageable but certainly nowhere near what I paid in this condition.

 

[Johnny]

Johnny,

This is a copy of part of the email eBay sent me.

You must ship the item with tracking and signature confirmation and submit the tracking information in the Resolution Center. Once the the item has been delivered to and signed for by the seller, you will receive your refund.

Notice it says Delivered To And Signed For By The Seller.

I'm blown away that the seller has ignored the fact of her non existent packing even after I gave her the link to UPS's minimum standards and how to pack page.

Maybe that is different than dealing with paypal claim service - I just return item and when dropped off I have my money - instantly.

eBay must be goofy....

 

[MasterBlaster84]

Johnny,

This is a copy of part of the email eBay sent me.

You must ship the item with tracking and signature confirmation and submit the tracking information in the Resolution Center. Once the the item has been delivered to and signed for by the seller, you will receive your refund.

Notice it says Delivered To And Signed For By The Seller.

I'm blown away that the seller has ignored the fact of her non existent packing even after I gave her the link to UPS's minimum standards and how to pack page.

Maybe that is different than dealing with paypal claim service - I just return item and when dropped off I have my money - instantly.

eBay must be goofy....

Seemed pretty stupid to me that the return would require seller acceptance. Gee what do you think the odds are some transactions are sour and the seller does not want to cooperate?

 

[MasterBlaster84]

Seemed pretty stupid to me that the return would require seller acceptance. Gee what do you think the odds are some transactions are sour and the seller does not want to cooperate?

What happens MB, if you pay the return shipping, and send the bolt box back to the seller, and they refuse to sign for it? Would the shipping company return it back to you? Would Paypal refund you the full amount, minus your return shipping? If yes...then it could work in your favor . What a mess ...i hope you get it all sorted.

-gsbadbmr

Yes I considered that and thought what sweet justice that would be for the horrible crap that has spewed from this biotch.
Unfortunately I'm not so easily willing to take that chance, I'm getting in contact with eBay again on this matter. They have her email where she stated she would refuse the shipment.

 

[Superduper]

When I have a problem on eBay, I call them and get quick service. Their customer service is actually pretty good when you are a power seller. Not so much if you are a regular bloke though.

 

[MasterBlaster84]

When I have a problem on eBay, I call them and get quick service. Their customer service is actually pretty good when you are a power seller. Not so much if you are a regular bloke though.

Yeah Norm I'm going to give them a call this time.
I used to have powerseller sales levels but as of last summer I've backed way off and now I'm just a regular part time bloke.

 

[Master Z]

I feel your pain MB. My last 2 ebay selling experiences were horrible.

I sold my mint Magnavox power player for around 200 bucks. It's the second one I sold that got me in the 200 dollar range. (I know, CRAZY!!! )
This box was 100% working, original and was detailed inside out. I knew everything about that particular box because I had it for a years. I packed it bomb proof, and a week later the buyer said the tape player didn't work. Tried to help them out, but they didn't respond. I offered to take it back even though it was a no return auction. They kept it for 3 months before sending back to me. WTF! She had me because I didn't specify a return time, and god damn ebay was on her side.
I **** YOU NOT, the son of a bitch took the cassette deck mechanism and installed a non working one without belts and missing some of the screws. I could not believe it. The mechanism was filthy and didn't match the condition of the rest of the box was in. I knew this is what went down and it's F'ed up. F@cking scammers!!!! :annoyed:

I never posted anything about it, it was just too negative an experience.
Bitches name was Lynsta. Avoid like the plague. :evilmad:

 

[bill]

master z that is a terrible story. i dont know i mean i would like to think most people are honest however.
after years of dealing with customer service i hate to say it if most people are honest its only by a slim margin .
people will tell you all kinds of stories. usually the more information they share with you the bigger the lie is they are telling.

it is unfortunate integrity seems to be a dying quality of human nature. what ever happened to just plain pride in being a good person.
honestly i kind of think of people who scam like this as being way way way worse than a drug addicted pan handler begging for change.
i mean i have seen all kinds. people just weaving a web of lies to save a few bucks or get something they do not deserve.
in the end the impact of the scammer goes unmentioned and is just rolled into higher prices for things.

it seems we have several types of scammers with this hobby.
the seller who buys junk and sells it as excellent or mint. they know there is little to nothing they can be held for in the end.
the other scammer who gets something then complains it is damaged with no evidence.

getting back a radio with parts missing from the inside of it is just absolute bullshit. i mean its just beyond me how someone can have such little shame to weasel like that.
i plain dont get it.

 

[blah blah]

Man I hope this works out MB into something positive. It is a very depressing thread...this is the part of dealing with boomboxes that utterly SUCKS. And some people are indeed vampires... :grim:

 

[redbenjoe]

i HATE these stories and the losers who cause these ugly dealings
those people SUK --

once i bought a "mint" walkman from some russian turd -
after i got the paypal refund for the POS
he wrote back
" thats why i hate selling to you americans"
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but --sometimes ebay stories are the opposite --

like i met eric and skillphil and norm and a bunch of other extreme honorable
members thru ebay.

 

[MasterBlaster84]

Sorry to hear MZ that's just wrong, they ripped you off.
Honestly it's crap like this that has cooled me off on my ebay activity, with times being tougher than they have been people are getting dirtier and more ruthless.

 

[MasterBlaster84]

Man I hope this works out MB into something positive. It is a very depressing thread...this is the part of dealing with boomboxes that utterly SUCKS. And some people are indeed vampires... :grim:

Honestly blah blah I considered not posting this but after thinking about it felt this lets everyone see the ugly side of reality and it's a good lesson for all of us to learn from. We can't always hide from the ugly, we need to see it or we can never learn and grow from it.

 

[Superduper]

MZ -- lynsta does not exist. Could you check again. I'd like to add that name to my ebay block list.

 

[floyd]

the gf 777 in my avatar came so busted up i had to remove what was left of the rear case and dump peanuts out of the radio ,the whole corner of the radio was destroyed not only that ,the tuner window and trim smashed ,the speakers were smashed in ,the amazing part is the tuner worked even though the tuner knob was pushed into the box and bent ,this box looked like a tractor ran over it oh and the power switch was broken and both cassette doors were laying loose in the package, no doubt it was not as described lol.