What Boombox Are You Cranking Up Right Now??

H3NK3L

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New project , scored a prett dirty, not working, humming on one channel,.... Brandt RK813S - aka Sanyo M9998 (for the french market)
had quite a few issues :n
- the usual black stuff that used to be tape belts
- FM radio totally offset , only going from 99.x to 105.x
- constant humming on the right channel (a transfo like sound)
- tape door remaining open
- no apparent power to the the tape deck
-...

Started out with totally dismantling the whole device, cleaned tape deck and replaced belts (not easy but easier than on a M9998), fixed the tape door problem - on these the tape lock mechanisme has 2 moving parts : tape presence detector + tape lock, the tape lock actually is a contactor...so cleaning that solved the "no power to tape deck" issue. - regulated the tuner....which is actually tidious but not that difficult on this one ... . It has the same tuner light system as the sanyo, meaning : sanyo has this black backplate system with a perspect tuner dial imprinted plate with a hole for the light... Btandt went the other way on the same system : a metal plate with the imprint on it (no perspex), and the hole for the light....but a piece of cardboard glued behid the plate to achieve same thickness as the sanyo. Result : the light doesnt do much except be there... So while at it I replaced it with 4 leds, which 2 by 2 I put in thetubing of an empty windex spray , thus creating 2 "light tubes" which I put on both ends. Took some time to figure out why they were CONSTANTLY on... in the end...cut the orange wire...and put on on/off button between the blue and white one (resp on the power switch and the dial light/batt check switch). This way : the original dial light/batt check switch works as intended (light on when pressed, leds to indicate battery) + a permanent button for dial lights I added. When that is on, the batt check still fonctions. while added and for the love of symmetry I added a 2nd button for bluetooth (through AUX din input) - symmetrical to the original power and dial light switch.
Still had the constant humming ont he right channel...checked the circuitry and couldnt find any issue...on the input side...on the the output side however..there was a constant 25 mV signal to the right channel.... so after replacing all caps near to the heatsink or in in its proximity...I replaced the right channel power amp chip and look and behold...no more humming....created a new issue though : left channel being weaker and sounding less "warm" than right, therefore put in a NOS amp chip in there as well and now we have a fully working, clean, bluetoothed, lighted device, with the typical warm and very clear sound sanyo has gotten us used to.

BTW : this thing doesnt look like it but its actually quite huge and heavy (behind it on the table is a Sanyo M9998 for comparaison, its about just as wide and only slightly less high - power though is not the same, its a 2x5 W (7w max continuous), but it goes real loud and has great bass

The tape deck itsself is exactly the same as on the M9998, but (only just) slightly more accessible for replacing belts : remove the bass/treble/volume "block) (one screw right hand side, 2 left hand side + remove the 3 screws holding the tape block in place (2 bottom, 1 left hand upper side), remove the 2 little screws on the back of the tape deck (holding the logics buttons and the pcb), then you can slightly slide out the deck, remove 2 screws on the triangular plate covering the flywheel, replace belts (flat one firstt - while at it : check motor hight and its 3 rubbers), dont forget to use something to hold the screws in place (nail polish. locktite,..) when re-assembling and take very very very good care to tuck all the cables back so they cant toucht any moving parts of the deck).

On these decks, whatever you do... DO NOT insist when especially the REW button doesnt seem to want to go down ! its mechanically held back when the tape presence / locked door detector mechanism is out (that is the little white square thingy on the middle right side of the tape deck, if it sticcks out : push it so it goes in, its like a button, it will "unlock" the piano buttons of the tapedeck. I you were to insist you would possibly break the piano buttons of the tape deck.


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goodman

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Another excellently finished project. Congratulations on the final result.
I have the same one, only it's brown color (like chocolate) and it's model Siemens Club 735.
So far it's still working fine, but when the belts need to be replaced I might ask for your experience.
 
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H3NK3L

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Another excellently finished project. Congratulations on the final result.
I have the same one, only it's brown color (like chocolate) and it's model Siemens Club 735.
So far it's still working fine, but when the belts need to be replaced I might ask for your experience.
You re right, the same device, just rebranded Siemens and nice brown (with some speaker grills right ?), great nifty and actually very good build quality and great sound on these things ! I like the "tape programming" thing on it... they did a rather good job on that, not just skipping one or 3...but actually being able to skip to any number from 1 to 9 and even in betweens. Not the most intuitive system though....

Feel free for rebelting advice...I already made most of the first-timer mistakes on these lol - but once you got the hang of it it actually becomes almost easy and you stop getting bloody fingers and expressing x-words.., I ll save the photos I made in the process.
 

H3NK3L

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Next up will be a Thomson MRK 472T (aka Sanyo m-X320) or a Thomson MRK 325T (aka saba), with a synthesizer pll tuner with leds ....
Must keep oneself busy on these automny nights :)
 

H3NK3L

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Last restoration : a Sanyo M7900 (the LU version). Nice devices, even with flaws well worth the saving imo.



Probably the most easy belt change ever on any Sanyo I ve encountered...
Pretty packed inside, came with a few issues :
- hardly any stereo on FM
- constant buzzing noise through the speakers, very audible with volume at 0
- FF and AMSS forward very slow and irregular
- had some kind of amazon short antennas

But rather easy fixes :
- VR502 was totally off (19kHz stereo signal)
- belts had been changed at some point but the (many) cables passed over an IC, creating the buzzing sound
- just replaced the amazon like antennas with some from a sanyo mini

So once 19kHz set to 19Khz and all cables passing through heir righteous place... All works fine.
 

H3NK3L

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It's Sanyo mid 80's (1985 I think!)
I couldn't find any date on any of the parts... But considering it has "normal - metal"... I thinks it's pre1985, but post 1980 indeed.

Current project : a Thomson mrk 425T (aka Saba), that has a digital, Led-indicated tuner dial, 6 fm and 6 am presets. To my surprise : the tuner has a rather huge Sanyo branded chip. Can't find any service manual for it... Don't like the all red leds on it, so changing a few for green ones. It has a Hitachi like deck and construction, one single huge mainboard taking up almost all the length and width of the box, one has to remove to get to the deck. Belts ruined of course.. But luckely not yet all glueish. Counter reset buttons stuck, extremely dirty (sortof of a kitchen life and garage life experience thing),... Also it has one nice thing about it.. It has a lot of wires that have come undone on the soldering point level, so redoing those... The nice thing : on the main board they indicate which colour wire goes where! Makes it a hell of a lot easier :)

Looks very 80s Immo, but I really don't like the red red red and red leds on it... Makes it boring looking...

Is currently still in surgery..
 

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Thomson Mrk 325T, some of the red leds replaced with green ones, and a speaker changer, originals having no bass whatsoever. Almost all wires replaced, original ones coming loose too easely due to cracked / badly aged soldering. FM reception is great, has 6 presets for FM and 6 for AM, 16 leds to indicate tuner position.
 

H3NK3L

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long term project...sharp gf 9500H, a decent powerhouse, but had a few issues...such as.....scratches allower its facades, dented speaker grills, speakers stained as if it had spent time in Krugers garage ,....


added 2 microleds in the tuner dial needle (getting the hand of doing that now)
blackened the speakers, but did keep the caps nice and chromy
removed just about all fauna and flora that was in it
added a filter and real tweeters
did a decent sanding and spraying job
anyways...here is the result
 

H3NK3L

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New project : Silver SR70... A nifty little 3piece in a 1 piece size, with autoreverse, soft touch buttons,... Pretty basic and despite the looks in pictures.. Most of what seems black is actually a real dark blue, including speakers, housing, tape deck door,...

Currently undergoing quite intensive surgery, had an antire ecosystem going on in it, with the entire circle of life from the long gone to the still living creatures...

Autoreverse is quite efficient, with a 4 channel tape head and instantaneous reverse / forward switching. And oddly, Co trol buttons and tuner button is some kind of chromed plastic... But the tape buttons are metallic... Only has one belt on the tapedeck, driving 2 flywheels.

For anyone restoring the deck : have no fear if autoreverse doesn't seem to work when there is no tape in it... The autoreverse button is connected to a tape detect contact, when this contact is open, direction button doesn't work, with tape it works fine.

It s however quite easy to work on, everything is pretty much accessible. Very good construction quality.

Totally dismantled... Awaiting re-assembly
 

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goodman

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Silver SR70... Autoreverse is quite efficient, with a 4 channel tape head...
I think, a fixed 4 track head is best for reverse systems.
I don't know why over the years, manufacturers have avoided this solution
and put in rotating heads that have so many problems...
I'll wait to see the restored boombox.
 
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H3NK3L

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I think, a fixed 4 track head is best for reverse systems.
I don't know why over the years, manufacturers have avoided this solution
and put in rotating heads that have so many problems...
I'll wait to see the restored boombox.

Its nearly finished.... had to remove the speaker grills to get the dents out and remove the rust on the backside, they re drying now....playing with a led in the tuner ... the needle is a bad design (too narrow heightwise : 2mm), some kind of orange not fluorescent with a very thin chrome like line in the middle... It doesnt have a stereo indicator led (the mainboard has loads of options, and mentions SR30 SR50 SR 70, with empty componentless places so I m presuming they used the same mainboard vor different series and versions... Anyways : now attempting to use the "tuning" led as a means to put a led in as tuner needle, so it ll light up when tuned....

But I recently got a (very bad shape) Crown CSC350... which needs a lot of work on it (someone cleaned the window with aceton...broke out the tape door, evidently tried tu prick out the tuner window from the front...(with what I presume, from the traces left) to be a flat screwdriver or knife, has about all its belts (including idler tire) gone goo... so the Silver kindof became secundary.

BTW : when restoring the tape deck on the Crown...I had a nice surprise....It s EXACTLY the same tape deck as on some Soft Touch Silvers... not the SR70

I definately agree on you on the reverse thing...why the hell did they start putting these rotating heads in those ?! Restoring that on a PC-55 was the worst nightmare so far . Anyways, Crown is getting paintjobs and such , Silver only needs a thourough final cleaning and waxing, so I ll post a vid when its presentable :)