Sad E bay story

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stereomad

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I was thinking of buying this box when I saw the listing....... Wish I did now as it would of been in the right hands!
I bought my Jvc m70GX from Geoff and it arrived very well packed,fast and exactly how he described!
If anyone is thinking of buying from Geoff then I assure you that you have nothing to worry about as he is a really honest seller and it's a real shame this has happened!
 

nikonfoo

Requiem Æternam
There's not really anything that would "come loose" on these, especially if you said you restored it yourself..does this ebayer have a username that consists of numbers AND letters..?

yes his name has numbers 47 and letters
 

Brutus442

Member (SA)
jimmyjimmy19702010 said:
Sounds like a scam. Ask the seller to send it back and you'll cover the shipping. This method will weed out the scammer trying to just get a free discount. It won't however, weed out a parts swapper.

If you ask for it to be returned with shipping costs covered by you, you can delay the refund until you receive the box back.

Don't mess around with this buyer, just get it back for inspection.
^^^^^THIS^^^^

Geoff don't mess around,this is a scam. Hopefully he won't raid the interior or break anything. Even if he does return it, I could imagine his packing skills. :thumbsdown:
 

Hisrudeness

Member (SA)
I'm calling 'Shenanigans' ( on the buyer) ! I have also had a box from Geoff and can vouch for his superb packing.
 

JustCruisin

Member (SA)
baddboybill said:
Did you ever check any of his feedback ? If he's a scammer maybe there's something in feedback to. Bad Boy Bill
Sellers can't leave negative feedback, so this scammer uses that to his advantage by threatening honest eBay sellers with 100% feedback.. This scammer tried pullin the same **** on me a few years ago, so I can only imagine how many boxes he's got "for free" after making false claims and getting refunds.. I didnt fall for that **** though!

If the mods did remove the name to avoid a public "tar and feathering", or because they've sold stuff to him on here..don't worry, this site wouldn't miss him at all.. I still wonder why signing into this site "anonymous" is an option..?
 

MyOhMy

Member (SA)
JustCruisin said:
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If the mods did remove the eBay username, it's because they know he's also registered here with the same name..
He contributes nothing to this website, so Ban that mufugga in a quickness!
If you do this you may lose track of him and he could use this to register back on the forum with a new username - unless mods can monitor his IP address?
 

nikonfoo

Requiem Æternam
Thanks to everyone
I really dont know what to do
1 Yes i would really hate to get my first black mark on e bay
I am proud of the way i pack and deal with people
Really it takes hours to pack ( only 15 min to open i thought it would take longer )
2 If he is scamming I would hate to let him as he will do it again
3 maybe he is telling the truth and i would be the bad guy
4 yea i left him feedback already cant give bad feedback
★"˜¨¯¯¨˜"ª¤¯`*•.. A+++++ Buyer & BOOMBOXER, thank you ..•*´¯)¸.•*´¯)¤ª"˜¨¯¯¨˜"★

he has been selling high end home stereo equipment which makes me wonder why he knows nothing about fixing
really would be hard to do this without knowledge
I will continue to communicate with him and try to work out what to do
He is not making demands at the moment
But asking what im going to do about it
I went to the p o and have advice from them on the insurance
sent him mail on that still no response ????
 

Superduper

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its simple really. Don't worry about the neg. It is what it is and unscrupulous buyers is part of doing business on eBay. Just accept the return but ask him to return it to you. That return cost is huge since eBay requires signature confirmation on anything over $200. He may not want to go through that.
 

MyOhMy

Member (SA)
Superduper said:
its simple really. Don't worry about the neg. It is what it is and unscrupulous buyers is part of doing business on eBay. Just accept the return but ask him to return it to you. That return cost is huge since eBay requires signature confirmation on anything over $200. He may not want to go through that.
Perhaps send packing instructions as well? If the guy's as shifty as may be presumed he may try and cover his tracks by posting the item back with less than satisfactory/adequately packing in the hope more damage in transit could be caused.
 

mmcodomino

Member (SA)
On the bottom left there is a speaker selector that causes the box to produce no sound qhen switched to ext. speakers!
Maybe he did not figure that out since it is labelled in Japanese but that would be my guess. It probably switched to ext sp while being shipped and kicked around.
I had two VZ2000s that had that problem with the switch on the back.
Tell him to try and work the switch a couple of times. I am positive that should do the trick.
 

Superduper

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Here's the deal. If the buyer is legit, then a responsible seller should accept responsibility and make things right. This might involve refunding the buyer for the entire cost of the transaction, or a portion thereof.

However, if the item is in otherwise good condition, and the transaction itself is suspect, then eBay policy requires seller to refund purchase price, but also requires buyers to return the item at their expense. If the buyer is in USA and the seller is in Japan, then the cost to return the item will be prohibitive. Additionally, buyers need to get delivery confirmation for any item less than $200 value, and signature confirmation on any item valued at $200 or more. This return cost is quite high, often exceeding the value of the item itself.

Returning the item means that EVERYONE loses. The buyer since he will lose whatever it costs to return the item, and the seller since he will lose the sale, and also lose the original cost to ship it. However, in this case, the boombox appears to be in otherwise good condition. Since nikonfoo will likely will be required to refund the purchase price anyhow, he might as well get the boombox back. It has value even if just for parts.

Of course if the buyer is honest and it was not his fault, then sellers should not make them hurt for something not their fault. However, if the buyer has a history of scamming or taking advantage of honest sellers, then backing down and letting them slide enables and encourages them to continue scamming sellers. Unfortunately, eBay's system is set up to enable dishonest buyers so holding your ground is basically the only way to stand up to them.

As for feedback, again, don't worry. Patterns usually are apparent and if you have a history of honest behaviour with an occassional negative, then most eBayers are sophisticated enough to understand that some buyers leave feedback for extortion purposes or are unusually hard to please. The totality of the portfolio is what is important. Besides, many people don't know this but feedback is not final. You can always leave follow-up feedback to feedback-left or feedback-received to explain.
 

JustCruisin

Member (SA)
mmcodomino said:
On the bottom left there is a speaker selector that causes the box to produce no sound qhen switched to ext. speakers!
Maybe he did not figure that out since it is labelled in Japanese but that would be my guess. It probably switched to ext sp while being shipped and kicked around.
I had two VZ2000s that had that problem with the switch on the back.
Tell him to try and work the switch a couple of times. I am positive that should do the trick.
That was my first thought too Max, but that's only on the GF-9000.. The 535 has tape speed adjustment instead..
 

nikonfoo

Requiem Æternam
no not eagle eyes that would be simple
ok so asked that he go to the post office and put in a claim so that i could organise insurance
He didn't answer now he has escalated to a claim
what is the point of insurance if he can just ignore this
Is this a reason to dispute his claim as he is not helping to solve this
e bay informs me i have to pay return shipping because it is damaged
the post office here say they cannot pay insurance untill he shows the box is broken to his PO
so still confused I will pay $300 + $130 then another at least $130 not knowing what has been done to the box Im out $560

**** requested to return Sharp 9000 Japanese GF-535 Boombox Vintage all working because something is wrong with the item. The buyer requested a full refund.
Next steps:
See the request details. Be sure to resolve the buyer's request by Oct 29, 2015. After that date, the buyer could ask us to open a case, and this can affect your seller performance level.
Note that if you accept a return, you'll be charged for return shipping because the buyer mentioned that something's wrong with the item.
 

baddboybill

Boomus Fidelis
This is exactly why I'm not going to sell Boomboxes on eBay anymore. eBay and PayPal can't even weed out the idiot scammers!!! Sorry bro for all your hassles.


Bad Boy Bill
 

Superduper

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Staff member
Hmm. I recently had to return an item because it was not as represented and wouldn't work for me. I requested a return and was fully prepared to pay for return shipping. Although not ideal, that was how eBay had worked for over a decade. But to my suprise, the seller provided a return shipping label. Now, I can see that this must be due to new eBay TOS (terms of service) which they recently upgraded but I admit I did not bother reading since they change them so often.

Nikonfoo, please check your PM.
 

trippy1313

Member (SA)
Man.... this sounds pretty sucky, whether it's a scam or not. I read some of this yesterday but with the new information it's sounding even worse.

I hope something works out good for you. Good luck man.
 

Mystic Traveller

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baddboybill said:
This is exactly why I'm not going to sell Boomboxes on eBay anymore.
Never sell yet and now not going too as well.
It seems that buyers have all rights on Epay whilst sellers nada.
nikonfoo, I feel for you, what a mess. Not fair.
 

nikonfoo

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thanks for all the condolences
I have felt the walls of e bay close in on me
Time to lie down and let it wash over me
I see there is no way to stop this once the buyer escalates to claim
I have 2 more on their way to buyers hopefully they will arrive and finish without problems
But I cannot take this risk again
My shipping costs that e bay takes a 10% of already are too high when something like this happens
I feel that these are the last boomboxes i will sell on e bay
I recommend everyone reads the new conditions on e bay
 
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