Ordering boomboxes from China...

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MONOLITHIC

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redbenjoe said:
i partly disagree with all you 'normally' agreeable fellas :-D :-D

if a member makes some flagrant-on-purpose misrepresentation- :thumbsdown: :nonono:
then - of course --its correct to warn the other members--

but --many issues are all just about cosmetic judgements-
like mint to minty to semi-mint to excellent, etc

so - if the matter was only about subjective appearance--
then - its not fair to trash a member over that.

ie --disappointed does not = burned

so --if thats the case(s)
rck is being cool to not mention member names

---my 14 cents :hmmm: :-)

:agree: to those terms. However, calling somebody out doesn't necessarily mean that you're trashing them. Also, in regards to these transactions, there's always 2 sides to a story and BOTH parties could be wrong. ;-) They (the seller) could always refute the claim and discuss it here if it's that serious.

You could also add the intentional "forgot to mention" type things. - not "misrepresentation", but total omission of a problem isn't good. "There's a big-ass hole in the back of the box. You didn't say anything about that!" Reminds me of when I got my Aiwa CA-100C from __________ of s2go. :-D

Poor packaging that results in a damaged box upon arrival isn't good.

Those things happen from time to time from eBay sellers, but shouldn't happen at all from Boomboxery members, 'cause, after all, they should know better. :yes:

Regardless, this is somewhat :eek:fftopic: :-D
 

Ewen

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My comment was intended to make the point that if the experience was bad enough to mention on the public forum (thereby already 'burning' those involved directly, and also in front of anyone else that knew about the deals), then presumably it's bad enough to warn others.

Unless of course it's unfounded.

And yes - both parties have the right to put forward their sides of the story into any thread, which makes the section even more useful.

For example, if someone started a thread about being ripped off by me, I could put forward my side, AND others can balance the views expressed that thread with others where people had been complimentary, and make up their own mind.

:-)
 
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rck1983

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The second bad experience happened yesterday when the GF-777 arrived with two large cracks on one side of the box. The front part and back side of the case have large cracks. I'll wait and see what the seller, a so called honorable member here, does before I mention his name. The first bad experience was maybe more of a disappointment with the condition that the box was in. Maybe that honorable member here has much different ideas what excellent condition means. Totally different than my definition.
 

redbenjoe

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rick -- the 'disappointment' box --
as you say --might be just a matter of different judgements
so -thats sad news :sadno: - but not a nightmare.

but --i think the gf777 is a fairly well built box -
so - since it arrived smashed -
then - its must be the result of some extreme careless
packing :nonono: :thumbsdown: :thumbsdown: :dunce:
 

MONOLITHIC

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redbenjoe said:
but --i think the gf777 is a fairly well built box -
so - since it arrived smashed -
then - its must be the result of some extreme careless
packing :nonono: :thumbsdown: :thumbsdown: :dunce:

:agree: There's 3 ways to look at this...

  • 1. If the packaging was poor, it's the sellers fault. :nonono:
    2. If the packaging was great but the box still arrived damaged, that's the fault of the package handler - especially if the packaging was damaged as well. ;-)
    3. If the packaging was great (but not damaged) and the box itself had those cracks in it, the seller probably neglected to tell you. :thumbsdown: It might have been like that before it was packed.
 
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rck1983

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The packing was very good, (double boxed with a tone of bubble wrap), no damage to the shipping box. So, what happened and WHEN? Hmmmmm. :thumbsdown: I sent the seller the pics of the damage and he says he is gonna file a claim with USPS and get back to me, but no reply yet. It did take him about a month after payment to actually ship it to me. Bad.
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vladi123456

Member (SA)
From my experience, filing claims with postal carriers is worthless. As far as I understand, if you ship a brand new item and can produce a receipt with the price, they will reimburse you. But a 30 years old boombox that cost $300 back then? USPS will pay you $5 (if that) - they don't go by ebay prices
Shipping a month after receiving a payment is not cool.
 
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rck1983

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I agree Vladi. It was a bad experience all around. I'm not sure how to handle it.
 
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rck1983

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Hey Ghettoman, no it came from the US. I probably should have bought from China.
 

mellymelsr

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...I must say I am shocked!!...I ordered my M9994k on Friday and it has already arrived from China!!...6 days, that was unexpected...I guess that is why the shipping cost was so high. I was at work when USPS tried to deliver so I am taking tomorrow off to pick it up first thing in the morning...I will post picks as soon as I open her up....
 

eldorado

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ive shpiied in loads of stuff from oriental countries and all is goin ok...

not a problem to date

thank God :)

theyre efficient and cheap !!!

and nice too.

domo arigato mr roboto
 

71spud

Member (SA)
BTW The GF-777 that Rick is talking about is the one I sent him. The one I drove all the way to Indiana to pick up in person last year because the seller would not ship it. Sure it took me awhile for it to finally make it out of the post office but here is the story.

You know my schedule for one thing... I travel alot. When he paid me I was gone for a couple of weeks for work, and then I returned thinking I could use one of the boxes I got my M90's in. Nope, too small to be safe in my opinion, it fit, but not with enough padding on it's own. But I was only home for the weekend and my usual box source didn't have one big enough. I sent my wife looking for a better box, and she ended up having my mother-in-law finally get off the fence and buy a flat-screen TV so I could use that box as the outer box. I wrapped up the 777 when I came back, (as I recall, a layer of foam over everything, 3-4 layers of larger 3/4" bubblewrap around everything, placed in my M90 box, with extra foam protection on the corners. Then I wrapped THAT entire box in 3/4" bubblewrap. Then I put that box in the larger TV box (modded to fit) and put more protection in the corners) I took that to the post office. That is how Rick wanted it sent, via USPS, Priority Mail. Well, I get there and they measure the package... 110" Length + Girth. Damn... their limit is 108". Too late to modify the package and get it sent out that saturday. So later that day I modded the package SLIGHTLY to get rid of 2" of girth.... (maybe more like 1 1/2" of girth) taking none of the strength or packing out and had my wife take it in while I was gone on my next trip... on her day off, near the end of the week. Shipped it off Priority Mail.

Because of the delay I told Rick that I would split the shipping cost with him. ($96.70 total shipping... I had only collected the price of the 777 from him, we waited to see how much the shipping would be as I only charge for actual shipping... nothing extra, nothing for all the packing materials etc). The next thing I know Rick has filed a PayPal claim against me for the full amount. After that PM's and pictures followed the next day, claiming that since I did such a good job of packing the damage must have been there before I sent it off. Explain to me the logic in that???? Besides Skippy was here, saw and heard the 777 right before I boxed it up. Ask him what the 777 looked and sounded like.

PayPal has since denied Rick's claim because non-ebay purchases are guaranteed only to be sent and arrive, not be perfect when they get there. Rick just sent me a PM a few minutes ago saying he is trying to get the bank to reverse the charges back to PayPal. Seems to me he is more concerned about the money than the boombox. Maybe broke it himself when he got it hoping get a quick refund on his money.... but buyers are perfect right??

Personally I have received $2000+ worth of damaged boomboxes in the last couple years. Including a very expensive Toshiba from Henry. Not once has a seller ever given me money back or even followed through on the insurance claim for me. Shipping is a risk... even with the best packing job. But hey, I am the bad guy... right? So I am in the process of filing an insurance claim for this and I will advise Rick of what he needs to do when I know myself. But maybe I should just mail Rick the paperwork and he can deal with it himself.

Oh, BTW Rick still owes me for half the shipping... but I think I can calculate the odds on that showing up.
 

redbenjoe

I Am Legend
no names were mentioned --before this --

so - that was cool --to step-up and tell the other side of the story --

now we all KNOW for 100% certain -- that the box was NOT cracked before shipment.
--and that it was cracked in transit --

NOTHING is easy --or a sure thing - :bang:
when it comes to our own US postal insurance --

i once lost exactly $400 --on a post office claim-
because they would not even accept it for consideration
without ALL the original packing (which i discarded) :dunce: :nonono: :sadno:
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in this case --rick HAS the packing --and it was way MORE than adequate
so at least he has a FAIR chance to win the $$ claim-

---other than what NOW seems like some HASTY and very inaccurate
accusations --which are totally unfair to spud (imho)

ALL $$ is not lost --
as the claim can/should be filed asap

so - hope that all gets done and that our trusty ??
post office comes thru.
i do predict they WILL-- -but it may be a 60 day total wait
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btw -- there IS a foolproof shipping process -to totally
INSURE insurance --
i have posted this before --
anyone need a refresher ??
 

Superduper

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I am working on a couple of GF-777's for someone here and all I can say is both of them have some bits broken off internally. The shell itself is actually only slightly better than the big black boxes (you all know which ones) and is rather thin for such a large heavy box, in my opinion. I think the best way for the GF-777's to survive shipping is NOT to use hard foam, aka styrofoam but use a larger box overstuffed with foam peanuts which has more cushioning effect.

BTW, the postal limit is not 108" L x Girth but rather 130". However, the larger box will cost SUBSTANTIALLY more to ship as it falls into a category of very large box and not large box (108").
 
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