JVC RC M90..SILLY MONEY

[Wes125]

what makes me laugh when i see these high price units i say to the person selling it.thats a lot of money you want for it. and the tape deck doesn't work. there reply is. but if u know what your doing u can fix it..my reply is. ah so your basing your price on the knowledge of the person buying it who will fix it. then i say. well no mate coz if your selling it for that amount of money it should be fully working. not base your price on what it will sell for after its fully repaired by that person buying it...then i usually get from em. well do u want it or not mate...ahahaahaha funny

 

[Radio raheem]

Well there is only one box i would like that could be worth an m90 in my eyes, a mint gf1000 but i know i won't get one of those so all good, i miss mine lol

 

[BoomboxLover48]

When I pay more for it and drive lots of miles to get one, I see more and more "GUTS" in it!
My second M90 has a lot of GUTS in it!

 

[Transistorized]

The M90 would be one of the last boxes I would part with and I am excited about the M90 mini to place in front of it when they come out

 

[Superduper]

I

still don't understand why Reli all fun aside, it's one of the most disappointing boxes i have owned in my history of buying boomboxes and yet you see people with multiples of the same box lol, it's not even half of an m90 in sound quality or features....i paid £200 for a fully working one and also had an m75, i felt i may as well have shot myself in the head lol

Perhaps you keep buying crappy ones & lack the ability to restore them properly so they are all crap to you because you bought crap. And generally speaking, I think people who constantly complains and whines about the price of these things is just jealous they can't get one for what they want to pay. There's no entitlement to owning an M90 (or whatever model you want but don't want to pay for) peeps in case you didn't know. For crying out loud, these things aren't available in stores like aspirin or beer. Production is decades long gone so what's out there is what's available, and if more people want them then there are available, it's gonna cost based on the supply/demand relationship, any joe knows that. That M70's and M90's regularly sell for a pretty penny suggests that it's the fair market price. And if you don't think it's worth that much, then simply don't buy it already, but quit with the complaining, make you sound whiny and entitled. After all, when has the price of collectibles ever made sense? A dollar bill that is printed crooked or double stamped is maybe worth a million bucks, why is that worth more than one dollar? It's not to most people. But for that person with deep pockets who wants the privilege of owning one of the 12 (or whatever # in existence) it might be worth it. All those who wouldn't mind having one for the novelty but find that price appalling... don't buy it but for craps sake, don't whine about it. I'm just saying.... Sheesh.

 

[K dabras]

No box is worth £4000

I do agree and not because i don't have one or can't afford to pay that kind of money. I've saved 1000 dlls to buy me one it took me 18 months to put that money in my savings and now that i have it. Prices are crazy . That being said I definitely will leave this world with no m90 in my collection.

 

[Northerner]

I do agree and not because i don't have one or can't afford to pay that kind of money. I've saved 1000 dlls to buy me one it took me 18 months to put that money in my savings and now that i have it. Prices are crazy . That being said I definitely will leave this world with no m90 in my collection.

I got mine a couple of years ago in a trade. Trading a box I got a good deal on and restored. So my M90 cost me £400 and my time. I was happy with that. Jump two years to now and I can afford the high prices but that kills half the fun for me of finding a bargain and restoring it. So I rarely paid full retail price then and I don’t now either (the recent Aiwa was a rare one where I paid up!)…it’s just harder to do. Luckily I’m largely done with building my collection which is a relief, I’d hate to be starting out now! But Norm is right, complaining about market prices gets you no where…the market, which includes us, drives the value up through simple economics, nothing you can do about it with vintage stuff other than we all stop buying or we flood the market selling ours off cheap.

 

[Wes125]

im glad i get most of my boomboxes from the recycling centres. that cuts out all these greedy gits over pricing these units. i buy this stuff to keep. i dont buy it to make loads of money on it..the problem we have is this good old internet. go back to the times when u saw items for sale in a newspaper add section. that person made his or her decision on what price to sell it for. and we all know there was some good deals about. but now with the net. these no nothing sellers--and what i mean by that is general people who bought this stuff new coz they liked it-- they now see how much people are selling these boxes for and jump on the band wagon even though they haven't got a clue what's wrong with the one there selling. and trying to knock the price down with em is like trying to get blood out of a stone. there answer is. na mate this is worth loads of money on e bay...and that when i say..yeah bye

 

[ford93]

There's one on ebay for $23,000!

 

[Reli]

There's one on ebay for $23,000!

With fake documentation to boot

 

[Superduper]

For all you guys that says that you won't pay $xxxx.00 for an M90, let me remind you guys that in 2012, in a bidding frenzy, an M90 sold on ebay for just shy of $4500. I know this because I was the one who sold it. I then backed that up a little while later with another (not as nice condition) M90 for $2600. That was in 2012. Years later, I had the pleasure to speak again with both buyers. The one who purchased the $2600 one was pleased with his purchase and it developed a small issue over that time with a transistor which the buyer sounded competent to address (I would have taken it back had he asked but he wanted to keep it). The fellow who purchased the $4500 example later told me he was extremely happy with his purchase, he obviously had more money than time (a man of means) to hunt/find/rebuild/ and he shared that he had been wanting one for a long time and was willing to pay for a fine example. If you would prefer to do the treasure hunt and maybe.... maybe someday finding one on the cheap.... then that's fine. All I'm saying is that I've found that there are people who have the money to buy nice ones, don't have the time, experience, luck or expertise to go the dumpster diving and restoration route. If you limit the value you are willing to spend to $200 or whatever amount (and that's perfectly fine) of any boombox then don't be surprised if someone else who has more money and willing to spend it gets into a bidding war with you and snatches it from you. I've lost tons in this way.... never have I thought to criticize the people who were more willing to part with their hard earned money for instant gratuity than I was... I was playing the long game. And the notion that we ought to have the government (as someone incredulously brought up, whether or not in jest) to limit the price of an M90 to some arbitrary figure is so out of whack that for where I live in the world, it would be totally un-American. After all, what you think that IF the government tells someone they can't sell their M90 for more than $50, that YOU would get a better chance of acquiring one? Wake up. If anything, there would be a lotto type of frenzy if one is ever offered and your chance to get one just evaporated into nothing. On the other hand, if you have $23,000, you can buy one right now, today! haha. Yeah, I'll pass on that one, but I won't criticize the guy for wanting his pound of flesh. It's just that he's unlikely to get it. Meaning: not market value.

 

[jvc4me]

For all you guys that says that you won't pay $xxxx.00 for an M90, let me remind you guys that in 2012, in a bidding frenzy, an M90 sold on ebay for just shy of $4500. I know this because I was the one who sold it. I then backed that up a little while later with another (not as nice condition) M90 for $2600. That was in 2012. Years later, I had the pleasure to speak again with both buyers. The one who purchased the $2600 one was pleased with his purchase and it developed a small issue over that time with a transistor which the buyer sounded competent to address (I would have taken it back had he asked but he wanted to keep it). The fellow who purchased the $4500 example later told me he was extremely happy with his purchase, he obviously had more money than time (a man of means) to hunt/find/rebuild/ and he shared that he had been wanting one for a long time and was willing to pay for a fine example. If you would prefer to do the treasure hunt and maybe.... maybe someday finding one on the cheap.... then that's fine. All I'm saying is that I've found that there are people who have the money to buy nice ones, don't have the time, experience, luck or expertise to go the dumpster diving and restoration route. If you limit the value you are willing to spend to $200 or whatever amount (and that's perfectly fine) of any boombox then don't be surprised if someone else who has more money and willing to spend it gets into a bidding war with you and snatches it from you. I've lost tons in this way.... never have I thought to criticize the people who were more willing to part with their hard earned money for instant gratuity than I was... I was playing the long game. And the notion that we ought to have the government (as someone incredulously brought up, whether or not in jest) to limit the price of an M90 to some arbitrary figure is so out of whack that for where I live in the world, it would be totally un-American. After all, what you think that IF the government tells someone they can't sell their M90 for more than $50, that YOU would get a better chance of acquiring one? Wake up. If anything, there would be a lotto type of frenzy if one is ever offered and your chance to get one just evaporated into nothing. On the other hand, if you have $23,000, you can buy one right now, today! haha. Yeah, I'll pass on that one, but I won't criticize the guy for wanting his pound of flesh. It's just that he's unlikely to get it. Meaning: not market value.

I am in the market for buying one. Not knocking anyone who is selling beyond my reach, but 1200 for a m90 that needs tlc is not my cup of tea. So paying for one
that is working i do bid on, but there is a lot of stimulus money out there keeps me from winning.

 

[K dabras]

I got mine a couple of years ago in a trade. Trading a box I got a good deal on and restored. So my M90 cost me £400 and my time. I was happy with that. Jump two years to now and I can afford the high prices but that kills half the fun for me of finding a bargain and restoring it. So I rarely paid full retail price then and I don’t now either (the recent Aiwa was a rare one where I paid up!)…it’s just harder to do. Luckily I’m largely done with building my collection which is a relief, I’d hate to be starting out now! But Norm is right, complaining about market prices gets you no where…the market, which includes us, drives the value up through simple economics, nothing you can do about it with vintage stuff other than we all stop buying or we flood the market selling ours off cheap.

You are right i was a very lucky guy with most of my boxes. Here in Mexico we had the opportunity to pay 50 to 200 per bb. But now they have increased by 500% because they argument is " look at ebay prices" which doesn't actually make any sense. We make an average of 120 dollars per week.

 

[Northerner]

And the notion that we ought to have the government (as someone incredulously brought up, whether or not in jest) to limit the price of an M90 to some arbitrary figure is so out of whack that for where I live in the world, it would be totally un-American. After all, what you think that IF the government tells someone they can't sell their M90 for more than $50, that YOU would get a better chance of acquiring one? Wake up. If anything, there would be a lotto type of frenzy if one is ever offered and your chance to get one just evaporated into nothing.

Yeh that was me that brought that up…clearly not a actual suggestion for many reasons I don’t need to list. Just an example of the extreme and laughable measures that would have to be taken to restrict the natural outcome of a free economy. Stuff is worth what someone is willing to pay and if someone else is willing to pay more then that’s just tough…same with houses, cars, anything. Inflation and fluctuating values is a fact of life. It’s sad if you’re priced out of the market but that’s how it is.

 

[Superduper]

Yeh that was me that brought that up…clearly not a actual suggestion for many reasons I don’t need to list. Just an example of the extreme and laughable measures that would have to be taken to restrict the natural outcome of a free economy. Stuff is worth what someone is willing to pay and if someone else is willing to pay more then that’s just tough…same with houses, cars, anything. Inflation and fluctuating values is a fact of life. It’s sad if you’re priced out of the market but that’s how it is.

Very well said. I just marvel at the absurdity that over the years, nothing really has changed. People still complain about the prices of boomboxes, and really as you/I/others have stated, it's all a function of supply & demand. It has nothing to do with perceived "worth" which is an individual thing. And talk about houses.... sheesh, the amount real estate has appreciated is now obscene. I once cheered the appreciation because I wanted my house to be worth more until I realize that if you ever want to buy another or trade up, it affects you big time. Then yeah the muscle cars that people used to throw away and trash like crazy (like Dukes of Hazard) are now worth a fortune. I have a vintage big block chevy I rebuilt a couple years ago thinking I would find a body to put it into. Unfortunately after a couple of years searching, I've now resigned to the fact that muscle car values have simply eclipsed what I am willing and even able to spend, so I might have to just sell it and never see my project materialize. It's life. Accept it, and get over it.

 

[Radio raheem]

well i might seem to be one of the winers about prices but in reality i couldn't care less I'm done with buying boxes, just because people are asking 4k for an m90 or 800 for an m70 i just don't agree with it..........need i remind people i have actually given away 2 m90's on here and i have always known the silly prices people get for them, i just think if people tried to be fair about prices this world would be a much better place and we wouldn't see the madness we see today....it's up to you guys what you ask for you're cars houses or whatever though.....all im saying is people should try and be fair instead of seeing £££££££££££ in there eyes lol

 

[Northerner]

Reno if I sell to a mate they get it cheap. If I sell them on eBay I start the listing at 99p so that the bidders can decide it’s value, I never do a Buy It Now. If I listed them cheap on eBay someone else would simply buy them and flip them for profit after I’d done all the work of restoring them. Same applies to houses, cars etc…if you generously sell them undervalue to the general public you’d be a fool who someone else would profit off. As individuals we simply cannot override a free market and the inflation it can induce. And if someone asks way too high a price for something it will simply not sell so is pretty irrelevant to be honest.

 

[Radio raheem]

I'm not accusing you Si or anyone and no we can't change the market value but there is nothing wrong in asking fair prices I'm not saying to give you're m90's houses away etc but it's normally the same old story get an m90 or whatever for 99p and then they instantly want 4k for them lol you may give fair prices to mates Si same as me but i can guarantee you 90% of people want all they can get, and like you said you're self it has taken all the fun away from this hobby...my m90's were not given away to the general public either they were given to 2 great members on this forum

 

[Radio raheem]

Perhaps you keep buying crappy ones & lack the ability to restore them properly so they are all crap to you because you bought crap. And generally speaking, I think people who constantly complains and whines about the price of these things is just jealous they can't get one for what they want to pay. There's no entitlement to owning an M90 (or whatever model you want but don't want to pay for) peeps in case you didn't know. For crying out loud, these things aren't available in stores like aspirin or beer. Production is decades long gone so what's out there is what's available, and if more people want them then there are available, it's gonna cost based on the supply/demand relationship, any joe knows that. That M70's and M90's regularly sell for a pretty penny suggests that it's the fair market price. And if you don't think it's worth that much, then simply don't buy it already, but quit with the complaining, make you sound whiny and entitled. After all, when has the price of collectibles ever made sense? A dollar bill that is printed crooked or double stamped is maybe worth a million bucks, why is that worth more than one dollar? It's not to most people. But for that person with deep pockets who wants the privilege of owning one of the 12 (or whatever # in existence) it might be worth it. All those who wouldn't mind having one for the novelty but find that price appalling... don't buy it but for craps sake, don't whine about it. I'm just saying.... Sheesh.

Perhaps you keep buying crappy ones & lack the ability to restore them properly so they are all crap to you because you bought crap. And generally speaking, I think people who constantly complains and whines about the price of these things is just jealous they can't get one for what they want to pay. There's no entitlement to owning an M90 (or whatever model you want but don't want to pay for) peeps in case you didn't know. For crying out loud, these things aren't available in stores like aspirin or beer. Production is decades long gone so what's out there is what's available, and if more people want them then there are available, it's gonna cost based on the supply/demand relationship, any joe knows that. That M70's and M90's regularly sell for a pretty penny suggests that it's the fair market price. And if you don't think it's worth that much, then simply don't buy it already, but quit with the complaining, make you sound whiny and entitled. After all, when has the price of collectibles ever made sense? A dollar bill that is printed crooked or double stamped is maybe worth a million bucks, why is that worth more than one dollar? It's not to most people. But for that person with deep pockets who wants the privilege of owning one of the 12 (or whatever # in existence) it might be worth it. All those who wouldn't mind having one for the novelty but find that price appalling... don't buy it but for craps sake, don't whine about it. I'm just saying.... Sheesh.

i simply have had much better boxes superduper like sony fh 909 jvc rdmd5 jvc pcx 1000, even some of the eggs sound way better than an m90 to name a few my friend, to me the m90 is only entry level as much as i love them, i respect you're opinion as usual though, there is no room for the m70 in my world im afraid

 

[Reli]

Depends where you use them. 3-pieces and eggs might sound great indoors, but they suck outdoors because they don't produce enough mids, and also because they're not vented in the back, so if you walk behind them you can't hear them anymore.