Collective Custom Boombox Project?

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Superduper

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The first 2 are pretty cool looking but too small except maybe for tweeters. The bottom one, well no offense but that is simply toooo ugggly!!!

Frankly, a rectangular panel covering the entire speaker array probably is easier, do you think? Because if we go with rings, then they should all sort of match right?
 

redbenjoe

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Reli said:
There's a guy on Stereo2go who has posted a couple dozen of his own mock-ups, including a 777 that I liked. You could see if he's willing to help. Another option is to just use an existing boombox as your starting point, make a 3D scan of it, and use that as your "base" to tweak. Like, say you like the Sharp 777, but wish it were longer, shorter, darker, different grills, or whatever....Use it as a starting point and then tweak it.
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creates gorgeous boombox designs -
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so send him a heads up on this entire thread
 

Reli

Boomus Fidelis
Superduper said:
The first 2 are pretty cool looking but too small except maybe for tweeters. The bottom one, well no offense but that is simply toooo ugggly!!!

Frankly, a rectangular panel covering the entire speaker array probably is easier, do you think? Because if we go with rings, then they should all sort of match right?


Oh, you can get them in different sizes that match. The first one is pretty common in multiple sizes.

Here's another concept that I think looks cool:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/10-Inch-CHROME-Speaker-Grill-Sub-Woofer-Cover-Bar-Grille-Guard-/380441550342?hash=item5894155e06:g:QVkAAOSwT4lWTVgO&vxp=mtr

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hardmen

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Just an "idea" for directions to go.
Lyle Owerko Vox Machinna (scupulture mix of VARIOUS radios in a BIG ONE).

Pretty in Plastic studios turn the Lyle "boxes" reallity (six of them was made for an exibition)...

Man... ...If I put my hands in JUST ONE with all those digital audio reallity today...

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Cheers.
 

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-GZ-

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hardmen said:
Just an "idea" for directions to go.
Lyle Owerko Vox Machinna (scupulture mix of VARIOUS radios in a BIG ONE).
Pretty in Plastic studios turn the Lyle "boxes" reallity (six of them was made for an exibition)...
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Cheers.
OH.MY.GOD. SIGN ME UP. ARE THOSE 15". DO THAT!
I'd throw $500 in for sure!
 

Superduper

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-GZ- said:
OH.MY.GOD. SIGN ME UP. ARE THOSE 15". DO THAT!
I'd throw $500 in for sure!
Even that non functional model will cost you way more than 5 bills. How about a functional one?
 

-GZ-

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Those pics got me really excited. My bad. I'd give my left nut for one of those boxes functioning.

Id be down to "invest" in this project Norman. As long as it looks like an old school boomer. Sadly i have no skills to offer other than cash but hey, cant do it with out the money!
 

Superduper

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No one has to invest anything yet and nothing will be for sale. There will be a lot of limitations to the design that will need to be compromised simply to meet the goal of assembling "off the shelf" parts or modules to minimize the need for engineering, then stuffing the whole thing into a hopefully attractive housing. While fantasy features are great if you can fit the idea into the design in a practical and cost effective manner, otherwise, fantasy needs to stay fantasy unless you guys can find a working module actually available for acquisition. And the only numbers I've seem thrown other there mentions a few hundreds of dollars, so if your one feature costs $500 per, then forget it since heck, this is Boomboxery, home of cheapskates, hehe. Remember, it's easy to romanticize about fantasy features if we were simply creating a drawing or concept of one. But if we are going to make a handful (remember, handful and not 50,000), then cost and practicality needs to be considered unless guys are willing to break the bank one one. Oh and there is mention of buying one. Sorry but none will be for sale.... you are either in it from the beginning, or you get to follow along and make your own using our attempt as a proof of concept attempt. If you didn't want to invest yourself into the project to begin with and like what you see as the project takes place, and you later want to buy one, sorry........... time for gnashing of teeth.

Now, some of the good things about a modular project is, at least if what I have in my mind works out is that the innards are all modular and can be swapped out for upgrades or replacement if something fails. This includes speaker drivers, type of power, adding lighting or other special features, the amp or amps, etc. I have seen them all either on eBay or other vendors. Except the power supply -- that I might need to think about developing a custom one with multiple rails and taps to allow all the modules to take power from. Sort of like an aftermarket car fusebox with aux taps. Blown amp? No problem, rip out the old and just stuff another one in there. Ideally, for costs, minimizing noise, prevent duplication of components and system, the whole design can be put on one board. However, that defeats the stated goal of an off-the-shelf project. If one was going to invest what it takes to develop something like this from the ground up, it won't be done collaboratively, it would be done on a large scale to minimize production costs per unit, and recover RD costs and maximize profits to the investor.

The modules I have in mind are as follows and they form the foundation for the assembly:

Audio Sources:
  • Tuner (HD)
  • CD-Player
  • MP3 (usb and SD card type)
  • Bluetooth Aux
  • Video (maybe) LCD screen for playback of video files **
  • Media Player for audio/video **
  • ** These might be wishful thinking due to availability of front panel real estate and maybe complexity that could jeopardize project for many reasons including lack of concensus.

Power Sources:
  • Custom internal Power Supply (AC)
  • Battery (standard D cells) holders, up to 20 ~ 24 cells.
  • External 12V DC input for external DC battery
  • ** custom battery or alt power source choices is individual owner's own responsibility to customize.

Circuitry:
  • Internal Source switching module (Tuner, CD, MP3, AUX)
  • External Source switching module (when in AUX mode, switches froom an array of aux inputs)
  • Tone control board (bass, treble, volume, balance, and loudness switch).
  • VU/Power Meters or Spectrum Analyzer Display (or both).
  • Discolite it? or some other led color organ type of flashy visual feature?
  • Amplifier module (tons of options available) 2,4,6 amps. Configuration depends upon speaker setup. Also affects design of PS.

Speakers:
  • Proposed, 3-way with 10" woof (or 6.5" subs), 6.5" full range, 2.5" cone tweets (or ribbons if you guys want to splurge $$$).
  • ** Because speaker selection directly affects aesthetic as well as functional design elements, there needs to be concensus on this before the cabinet phase even gets off the ground. Lastly, speaker drivers really could go from dirt cheap to exotic huge $$ options.... for the purposes of this project, I suggest we simply get decent cheap drivers first and owner could then customize and swap to their hearts content and wallet since how hard can it be to swap out some speakers. That way we aren't quibbling about whether to employ $15 woofers or $150 (each) ones.
All suggestions are welcome but the voices of those who have pledged to participate will get the greatest consideration (and of course get to vote on final design details).

Now since this is all just in the speculating and thinking stages, I will in the weeks to come, begin to purchase exactly some of the modules above I am speaking about. I will then test them to see if such a project is even feasible or whether these modules will all interface together without major issues. Once that is out of the way, if everything seems positive, then I will broadcast my results and ask for members to pledge whether they want to participate or not. Once we get an idea of how many interested participants, then my plan is to discuss in greater detail with anyone (Joe, Trippy?) about the cabinet design and costs and whether the project is feasible. To some folks, plunking down thousands on a custom project is fine. Just see what car builders/hobbyists are willing to invest in their hobby and you'll know what I'm saying. To others, $300 is too much. Therefore, budgeting is a huge issue. When participants are pledged, then fine financial details and nitty gritty will be discussed in private group discussion to see if a consensus can be reached on all the nitty gritty's of the project.

Maybe this project might not take off. Maybe I might need to do this individually to retain control of the project in case there is too much dissent on the details or other aspects of the project. I dunno, but I do hope to be able to do this jointly with a another or few other interested parties. Time might be running out for me and this is something I really wanted to do for a long time.
 

blu_fuz

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I'm all ears for mounting specs, cabinet design features, and overall finished shape. We can start with any rough sketch from anyone and tweek it from there. Norm, if you have a shape/style/overall dimensions in mind, scribble it down in paint or on a napkin, I don't care how. We will figure out framework and hiding fasteners as we go. Just having a visual will help people step up to be in the production run if it takes off.
 

Reli

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One thing I wouldn't want is a video screen. I feel that takes away from a classic look. No offense but I'm pretty direct with my opinions, lol.

The only type of screen it should have is one that shows digits, like track number or radio station.

Also, if it has some kind of phone cradle, it should be on the top or the back, instead of the front. Nothing looks dumber than a box with a phone stuck on the front. Put it on top or on the back where it can't be seen. Hell I wouldn't even bother creating a cradle, as it would require complex tooling to create.

Just have Bluetooth, USB, an SD card reader, RCA jacks, and an FM radio. That's all it needs. A CD player is ok I guess, but it takes up a lot of space, and I'm willing to bet that most of you rarely play yours.
 

blu_fuz

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I only play cd's in my vehicles BUT I would play them in my blasters if they had a slot.
 

Reli

Boomus Fidelis
Mount the tweeters at the upper corners, for better stereo separation than you would get from coaxial drivers.
 

trippy1313

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blu_fuz said:
I'm all ears for mounting specs, cabinet design features, and overall finished shape. We can start with any rough sketch from anyone and tweek it from there. Norm, if you have a shape/style/overall dimensions in mind, scribble it down in paint or on a napkin, I don't care how. We will figure out framework and hiding fasteners as we go. Just having a visual will help people step up to be in the production run if it takes off.
I agree. I'm no artist when it comes to having a vision of something. But if I can see something, there's a better chance I can try to work on ideas of making them.
 

Lasonic TRC-920

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Reading this, it really makes me value what the engineer's in the 70's and 80's went through to create an all around useful product. Facing the limitations of an on board power supply (12v, 13.5v or 15v) to get power systems strong enough to BLAST MUSIC. Some of them serious winners (M70) some of them serious losers (most others).

Seeing everyone's inputs of what they want out of a boombox, knowing what I want out of a boombox and hearing what is possible or where THIS project may go is a real balancing act.

I think some of the area's we can all agree is:

It has to look like a classic blaster
Needs to have real performance (think C100 power, M90 cleanliness)
Modern connectivity

I think the rest will be up for argument...

Will this be a HUGE table top radio (think Sharp VZ2000) that can technically run on batteries and be taken outside, but is so heavy and bulky that you never would?

20D cells in a 40" radio would render it nearly impossible to rock down the street.

Is the goal to simply beat the Wheely in size to be the "Biggest" regardless of practicality?
(The Wheely is RIDICULOUS in size at almost 3 feet long)

What I want:

I want to take it outside on some sort of battery power that can last all day and not cost me a fortune to run.
I want to be able to carry it around, by handle or strap
It has to be reasonable on weight
It has to fit in my trunk :lol:
 

blu_fuz

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I think the same thing, it doesn't have to be massive to be good. I would like something no bigger than Lasonic 931 size (which is smaller than a TDK 3 speaker)
 
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