white speaker advice. please

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Van Presence

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hey everyone. thanks for all the replies. seems to be a small amount of in house fighting on the best/easiest/proven or just personal choice. classic!
so i was in the city on the weekend an decided to go with paint brush and acrylic. cant say iv done much spray painting so thought id be safer with hand and paint. goin to have a go now, test out how thick/wet will start with.
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no one even had a guess on what they are out of. you will just have to wait till i get it all back together
 

Ambience

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They look almost like my 5085's speakers, but the dust cap appears to be larger. I have a spare set of 5085 speakers, I've been meaning to practice whitening them. I'll have to see how yours come out. Good luck!
 

superlew

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At first, I thought GF-9000, but then noticed they were missing the "ribs."
So I'm going to guess Lloyds PT-003 (or AKA).
 

Van Presence

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did 1 coat light last night, could still just see the big yellow smudge so i did another tonight. really happy with the result.DSC02329.JPG
 

duckman

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Looks fab. No brush strokes to speak of that we can tell from pics. Yeah, the 1st coat may show water stains but if let to dry it will cover with 2nd coats (most times)

Again, look great.
 

BoomboxLover48

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Hisrudeness said:
Looks tip top!
Sure it does! Even better with one more layer!

Those upgrades are not for audio lovers. :yes:

The ideal loudspeaker diaphragm would never flex and would exhibit perfect pistonic motion. It would be infinitely rigid, well damped(stops on a dime), and the speed of sound through the material would be
unlimited. The mass would ideally be zero and the break up mode frequency would be infinity.


If you change the mass you lose the sound quality. One cannot dance and do fast movements with a heavy butt!

Just for a compromise Better believe in ultra thin layer application with an aerosol rattle can rather than getting 'muddy sound' with brush application of w/b acrylic on PAPER substrate for the looks. :w00t: :lol: :lol: :lol:

I am totally against painting speakers and increasing the mass of cone paper.

Just my opinion! Please don't be offended! :no:






My apologies in advance!
 

T-STER

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When you say increasing the mass, we are talking such miniscule amounts you cannot possible audibly detect a difference. A thin layer of artist paint vs a thin layer of aerosol, we are talking tiny amounts of weight there. Just my opinion.
 

BoomboxLover48

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T-STER said:
When you say increasing the mass, we are talking such miniscule amounts you cannot possible audibly detect a difference. A thin layer of artist paint vs a thin layer of aerosol, we are talking tiny amounts of weight there. Just my opinion.
It is not minute amounts and will be several milligrams. A side by side sound evaluation/listening will should show the difference to good ears.
It is pretty easy to measure this with a weighing lab scale. Take a weight before and after full cure of the paint. I would say an aerosol paint will have better even film thickness and less weight when compared to a brush application with w/b acrylic paint.

A simple test will be to gently tap the painted cone paper with one end of a splinter and on the unpainted one.
They will sound different and the painted one won't be that crisp and will sound dampened.
 

Hisrudeness

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I've done dozens of boxes wig acrylic paint and had no issues at all.
If at any point I thought I would lose anything acoustically I wouldn't do it, especially on some of the big hitters.

You're objections are theoretical at best or have you tried it?
 
I agree that increasing the mass of the speaker cone is not desirable. However, a Boombox is far from HiFi and I doubt anyone without superhuman hearing would detect the difference between the before and after sound signature.

One thing everyone will notice is the beautiful white speakers!

James.... :-)
 

Van Presence

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MyOhMy said:
Good result. :yes: Did you prep the stains or just apply two coats of acrylic onto the cones?
oh crap, did i miss a step? prep as in? i wiped/got all dust off then painted

BoomboxLover48 said:
Sure it does! Even better with one more layer!

Those upgrades are not for audio lovers. :yes:

The ideal loudspeaker diaphragm would never flex and would exhibit perfect pistonic motion. It would be infinitely rigid, well damped(stops on a dime), and the speed of sound through the material would be
unlimited. The mass would ideally be zero and the break up mode frequency would be infinity.


If you change the mass you lose the sound quality. One cannot dance and do fast movements with a heavy butt!

Just for a compromise Better believe in ultra thin layer application with an aerosol rattle can rather than getting 'muddy sound' with brush application of w/b acrylic on PAPER substrate for the looks. :w00t: :lol: :lol: :lol:

I am totally against painting speakers and increasing the mass of cone paper.

Just my opinion! Please don't be offended! :no:






My apologies in advance!
no need to apologize. everyone is allowed an opinion. but as i said im not confident with a spray can, last time i used i made a huge mess, lucky it was a fancy dress costume so didnt matter. im happy

jimmyjimmy19702010 said:
I agree that increasing the mass of the speaker cone is not desirable. However, a Boombox is far from HiFi and I doubt anyone without superhuman hearing would detect the difference between the before and after sound signature.

One thing everyone will notice is the beautifull white speakers!

James.... :-)
yep thats about right. happy to do to a $100 radio but when it comes to my $2500 B&Ws i would even think about it.
how do you know they behind some black grills. ha. but yes they do look good behind them
 

samovar

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I have just had a couple of badly stained white speakers repainted by a friend who is an artist of the brush. Two almost invisible layers of white worked wonders, as I hope to show as soon as I understand how to upload pictures (apparently I can't in reply to a post).

Soundwise, I cannot perceive any difference to speak of. I wouldn't hesitate repeating the experiment, because it is not really invasive. Does it jeopardize sound quality? In theory, yes; in practice, I doubt it, as boomboxes are hardly audiophile items.
 
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