There really is no excuse

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panabox1

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I remember reading about Henry Ford in a self-development book I bought. There was a story about how we wanted a certain type of engine that had never been produced before. All of his engineers and management team said it couldn't be done, there was no way it could happen, it was impossible. Henry gave them an ultimatum: they can either all go into the labatory room and not come out until they found a solution, or they could all pack their bags and he hire engineers who wouldn't make excuses. Needless to say, they came up with the solution and Mr. Ford got his engine.
 

mellymelsr

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Lasonic TRC-920 said:
I have used App EQ's before and they do boost bass and volume but they don't boost sound quality. Any time you EQ over +-0 you are adding to the track.

MP3 files are 10% of the original. So if you want the best sound quality, FLAC for digital or Vinyl on line in or CrO2 / Metal cassettes. This will provide the best reproduction of what was on the original recording.

Remember, 1985 was the first year of digitally reproduced music. This was the first year the signal could be PUSHED onto the recording media (record, tape, CD). This is where LOUD music came from and also the first time the 808 was really pushed hard. But almost all the radio's we love were built to reproduce music from before this era. The engineers that designed them, did so to reproduce music before the digital PUSH and before the 808 note. The App EQ's might be tricking the radio into playing bigger bass, but IMHO, the sound quality isn't there.

In the end, it's all a matter of taste. As I said, I was using AnEq Free on my cell phone and it WILL push the bass but the sound quality was :thumbsdown:

However....If you are outside on the basketball court letting it all hang out with the volume on 8, it might be all you need to get your game on!

All a matter of taste
Yep...what he said...😊
 

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I think trying to compare an era 3-1/2 decades ago to the modern era is silly, and complaining about that era as being shameful for not producing $50 portables that could compare with the $2000 premium lexus (or whatever) mark levinson audio system is even silly(er). First, strip all the audio out of your car and weigh them and you'll probably end up with a box of stuff (headunit, amp, more amps, 8 speakers, etc) weighing 75 pounds. Before the battery. And then try stuffing them into a case that could hold all that weight without breaking. Oh and then how about trying to power them with 8 or 10 "D" cells and then see how well that setup performs? Yeah, good luck with that. First, me thinks it will distort like a Son of a B the moment you crank it, the flourescent display dimming and blinking with the slightest hint and blink of any significant bass strike. At least it will do that for all of maybe 20 minutes before the batteries are toasted. No excuse indeed. BTW, all those car manucturer engineers prior to the '80's should all be shot for producing carburetors because fuel injection (not mechanical ones, I want electronic ones, dammit) is sooo much better. Variable venturis, vacuum secondaries and double pumpers -- all junk. One little tweak by pressing a few buttons using the latest and greatest plugin tuner module could accomplish all that and so much more, there's just no excuse!
 

Lasonic TRC-920

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panabox1 said:
I remember reading about Henry Ford in a self-development book I bought. There was a story about how we wanted a certain type of engine that had never been produced before. All of his engineers and management team said it couldn't be done, there was no way it could happen, it was impossible. Henry gave them an ultimatum: they can either all go into the labatory room and not come out until they found a solution, or they could all pack their bags and he hire engineers who wouldn't make excuses. Needless to say, they came up with the solution and Mr. Ford got his engine.
Many of the higher educated members on this site (not me) have been working on this very subject for years. Everyone of us wants what we do not have. MORE POWER from an 80's looking box.

There are lots of modern radio's that will deliver the power and bass you are looking for, like the Kaboom everyone is suggesting, also the new Aiwa (see it here).

:eek:fftopic:
As for Henry Ford, his problem lay not in the internal combustion engine design, but in lack of quality fuel they burned. Sadly, his engineers added LEAD to gasoline to prevent knocking and boost power which poisoned the population and most of the planet until it was outlawed worldwide in the late 70's early 80's.

Superduper said:
I think trying to compare an era 3-1/2 decades ago to the modern era is silly, and complaining about that era as being shameful for not producing $50 portables that could compare with the $2000 premium lexus (or whatever) mark levinson audio system is even silly(er). First, strip all the audio out of your car and weigh them and you'll probably end up with a box of stuff (headunit, amp, more amps, 8 speakers, etc) weighing 75 pounds. Before the battery. And then try stuffing them into a case that could hold all that weight without breaking. Oh and then how about trying to power them with 8 or 10 "D" cells and then see how well that setup performs? Yeah, good luck with that. First, me thinks it will distort like a Son of a B the moment you crank it, the flourescent display dimming and blinking with the slightest hint and blink of any significant bass strike. At least it will do that for all of maybe 20 minutes before the batteries are toasted. No excuse indeed. BTW, all those car manucturer engineers prior to the '80's should all be shot for producing carburetors because fuel injection (not mechanical ones, I want electronic ones, dammit) is sooo much better. Variable venturis, vacuum secondaries and double pumpers -- all junk. One little tweak by pressing a few buttons using the latest and greatest plugin tuner module could accomplish all that and so much more, there's just no excuse!
What he said....
 

Reli

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Henry Ford was also an anti-Semite and spied on his workers to ensure they met his brand of social conservatism
 

panabox1

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Reli said:
Henry Ford was also an anti-Semite and spied on his workers to ensure they met his brand of social conservatism
Yea he did have his issues. I especially wasn't too fond of how he didn't respect his son or his bigoted views on Jews. (Sorry to get off topic). I just thought the story from the book I read was worth sharing here. He wanted something that everyone else said was impossible and he got it.

Back on topic, AC only boxes could have taken a car system and portabilized years ago. I just know there's a lot more that can be done than what manufactures are currently giving us.
 

Superduper

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panabox1 said:
Back on topic, AC only boxes could have taken a car system and portabilized years ago. I just know there's a lot more that can be done than what manufactures are currently giving us.
Then you clearly haven't experienced nearly the full complement of available boomboxes yet. There already are/were many boomboxes that performs marvelously on AC. Just audition some of those Sony FH series portables and you'll find that they possess power that can produce ear drum shattering SPL's. Those aren't the only ones neither. Later black ones are AC only. The earlier ones like the FH-7 is AC only but in order to be truly portable, needs a DC power adapter that swaps out the AC amp module for a DC battery pack that also includes a lower power amp. I'm sure there are countless AC boomboxes that are similarly high powered but which I haven't mentioned.
 

panabox1

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Superduper said:
Then you clearly haven't experienced nearly the full complement of available boomboxes yet. There already are/were many boomboxes that performs marvelously on AC. Just audition some of those Sony FH series portables and you'll find that they possess power that can produce ear drum shattering SPL's. Those aren't the only ones neither. Later black ones are AC only. The earlier ones like the FH-7 is AC only but in order to be truly portable, needs a DC power adapter that swaps out the AC amp module for a DC battery pack that also includes a lower power amp. I'm sure there are countless AC boomboxes that are similarly high powered but which I haven't mentioned.
Thanks for mentioning these Sony FH series. Sony made an awesome attempt but it had one major achellies heel: in typical Sony fashion, these boxes lacked deep bass. They were boomy, they were hard hitting, but they rolled off rather early in the bass department; inexcusable in my book. Even the Sony system in the Ford Edge was guilty of this, and almost every other Sony product that I've heard, except for one: and that was years ago at Service Merchandise. It was a home speaker and the deep response was a rare characteristic for Sony. The battery pack for the FH series was an awesome idea too.
 

panabox1

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As I've mentioned before, today's boomboxes have more battery space ( I love Aiwia's rechargeable, removable battery pack). The cd, tape, and tuners are no longer needed and they can be replaced with more battery, more amp, more speakers and more acoustic space.
 
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