Telefunken Studio M1 -- NOT A BOOMBOX

[oldskool69]

I absolutley agree there should be a DC option when testing. And I agree, if there is an AC option, the 'Funken should be on the same plane as the others...thus it should use a DC adapter when applicable.

Man we need to find a way to hook up. I am diggin' the technical back and forth aspect of this thread.

 

[Prime]

Prime ran his Pioneer CK-11 with the power amp setup against it and lost.

I did not use a CK-11 with amp option. I didn't have it yet. That was a CK-5.

The CK-11 has not been to the meet yet.

btw, it spanks the Studio 1 with 59 volts feeding its final stage as you'll witness 2010.

 

[Radio raheem]

Prime ran his Pioneer CK-11 with the power amp setup against it and lost.

I did not use a CK-11 with amp option. I didn't have it yet. That was a CK-5.

The CK-11 has not been to the meet yet.

btw, it spanks the Studio 1 with 59 volts feeding its final stage as you'll witness 2010.

Question is prime, how would it fair on batts? would it be a dramatic power loss like the studio?

 

[Prime]

When on batteries, the output drops but is still plenty to whip any other box on batteries at the meet.

Would this be considered "stirring the pot" ? :sin:

 

[Superduper]

Damn. Now, I almost wish I could go just to witness the duke 'em shoot 'em outs. Anyone here want to offer a scholarship or grant for a boomboxery educational experience??

 

[Radio raheem]

When on batteries, the output drops but is still plenty to whip any other box on batteries at the meet.

Would this be considered "stirring the pot" ? :sin:

 

[Radio raheem]

I wish i could test the 939 against my modded m90 as i have made 2 of my m90's way louder than standard but dammit there both too loud for where im living at the moment

 

[oldskool69]

Prime ran his Pioneer CK-11 with the power amp setup against it and lost.

I did not use a CK-11 with amp option. I didn't have it yet. That was a CK-5.

The CK-11 has not been to the meet yet.

btw, it spanks the Studio 1 with 59 volts feeding its final stage as you'll witness 2010.

I stand corrected wise one of Pioneer vintage.

 

[oldskool69]

Damn. Now, I almost wish I could go just to witness the duke 'em shoot 'em outs. Anyone here want to offer a scholarship or grant for a boomboxery educational experience??

I wish you could come too...then we could test bench test the boxes and get what's really being spit out.

 

[oldskool69]

When on batteries, the output drops but is still plenty to whip any other box on batteries at the meet.

Would this be considered "stirring the pot" ? :sin:

Stir it it up baby!!! Stir it up!!!!

 

[hemiguy2006]

I have to agree with Norms opening post from beginning to end.
These facts also hold true with the Funken HP-800 as well.
These units are not efficient on battery power at all.
Definitely not your carry along box .
In fact, with batteries in it you would break your arm clean off trying to lug that beast a half a block .

I have to say tho, IMHO it still qualifies as a "BOOM"box .
Just not the one to be carrying around.

 

[Superduper]

Just to clarify Hemiguy, my beef pertains to the huge discrepency between it's ac and dc performance levels and not the weight. The dc performance of this model, in my opionion, is only 1/4 to 1/3 of it's ac performance. It can be used as a boombox, or it can be used as a shelf system.

However, if it's going to be used as a boombox and compared to other boomboxes that are truly portable, then it should be tested in portable configuration and that means DC powered.

Most boomboxes will show some degradation in performance from DC to AC. But I'm talking about maybe 80-90% of AC potential. This one does not perform while on DC. To compare this to, say a M90, and have it crowned king of boomblasters while testing on AC would be misleading because in my opinion, the tiger metamorphosizes into a neutered kitty when on DC.

As it stands now, I don't think I'm going to be able to make this trip. But what do you guys think? To be accurate and for a more meaningful comparo, how about having two pow wows. One conducted while on 120V AC power and another on DC power, whether it's batteries, DC adapter, or simply supplying the battery voltage by clipping on some leads from a lab power supply to the battery terminals in the compartment? I'll even volunteer to supply the power supply, which can provide anywhere from 0 to 30VDC and you can even adjust the current level?

 

[oldskool69]

I absolutley agree there should be a DC option when testing. And I agree, if there is an AC option, the 'Funken should be on the same plane as the others...thus it should use a DC adapter when applicable.

Man we need to find a way to hook up. I am diggin' the technical back and forth aspect of this thread.

See my earlier statement regarding my thoughts...

 

[hemiguy2006]

Norm,
My feelings about the Studio qualifying as boombox pertains to the title of your thread. "NOT A BOOMBOX"
Not about it being any less or more of a portable boombox than any other model.
I understand why theTelefunken does not perform as well on batteries as other boxes.
This problem holds true with not only the Studio but also the Highly regarded JC2000 Helix / Wheely
and many other boomboxes.
Should we consider these shelf systems too

 

[Superduper]

Hmm, I have not heard the JC2000 wheely but if you are saying that it (and any oother boombox) also suffer from great degradation on DC. Below, say 80% of the AC level, then I would say yes.

That would be like a dual purpose machine with highly different configurations. One for portable (boombox) use and another configuration for home (tethered) use. Therefore, with such great discrepencies, then they should be tested and compared with their respective configurations. AC vs AC and DC vs DC.