National Panasonic RX-5250L For £820.00 - Madness?

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Superduper

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Wow, that's a nice SK. I never knew the difference between the 909 and 900, anyone know?

Anyhow, this is eBay we are talking about where one should always be prepared to be surprised. I just now did some snooping on the seller and it does seem like all of his sales are conducted privately and he has 1800 feedbacks so apparently, this practice is nothing new for him, although aside from auto parts sales, he actually has very few auctions. Still, this shouldn't automatically mean that the sale is suspect. I have sold several boomboxes that concluded at prices far higher than many people believed was real and several questioned whether there was shill bidding, or whether the buyer would come through, and made comments like it'll probably be relisted again, etc. All I can say is that all of the high sales I had all went through and there are real bidders out there that have deeper pockets than you or I and just because they know what they want and are willing to pay for them, doesn't mean that every auction that went for high $$ are not real. Many are, and I say this from experience.
 

Hisrudeness

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I'll guess we'll see. If the sale sticks then I would of thought it would be an unprecedented price for that model.

The SK-900 is the JDM or at least Asian version of the 909.
 

Reli

Boomus Fidelis
I can think of several "semi-grails" that don't sound as good as the 5250

GF-9191
GF-9494
GF-9595
GF-8989
RX-5150
Hitachi 3D boxes

But that's just my opinion :tease: It's a great indoors box because it sounds good at low volume, and the Ambience is a nice feature. At higher volume the bass breaks up a bit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hlYqWFvVOL8
 
Reli said:
I can think of several "semi-grails" that don't sound as good as the 5250

GF-9191
GF-9494
GF-9595
GF-8989
RX-5150
Hitachi 3D boxes

But that's just my opinion :tease: It's a great indoors box because it sounds good at low volume, and the Ambience is a nice feature. At higher volume the bass breaks up a bit.
Opinions of sound quality will vary from person to person for sure. The 5250 is basically the same box as the 5150 except for features and the proper tweeters in the 5250. Maybe that explains the superior sound of the 5250 over the 5150.

IMHO, many (not all) Sharp boxes don't sound as 'clear' as the mid range Panasonics.

Of the boxes you mentioned, the Hitachi 3D7 is a box that sounds as good as a 5250 with regards to highs, mids. The bass is superior with the 5250... until you switch on the 3D7s BTL centre bass speaker! It's not just the amount of bass, it's how low that centre 8 ohm driver goes that gives it the edge for bass heavy tracks. The crossover between the 2 amps is 150 Hz so the centre speaker only does lows. Having a dedicated amp for the centre speaker means the highs don't suffer when you crank the bass. But if a 'wide mode' is your thing, then you'd swing over to the 5250. :-) The Panny certainly looks beautiful and has a superior deck and overall build quality.

Sorry, back on topic. :-)
 

Superduper

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Hisrudeness said:
The SK-900 is the JDM or at least Asian version of the 909.
That's not correct Rudy. Or, I should say that while the JDM version of this boombox does indeed use the SK-900 model enumeration, it is not unique to JDM. In north America, this model is also SK-900 and includes US voltage and full range FM tuner as well.
 

Hisrudeness

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Superduper said:
The SK-900 is the JDM or at least Asian version of the 909.
That's not correct Rudy. Or, I should say that while the JDM version of this boombox does indeed use the SK-900 model enumeration, it is not unique to JDM. In north America, this model is also SK-900 and includes US voltage and full range FM tuner as well.
Ahh ok, that explains why my SK-900 has a full FM tuner band and the JDM ones don't. So the 909s are euro?
 

Radio raheem

Requiem Æternam
It's probbably a £200 box as i didn't see the carton with it, but i make no secret i just don't like low end boxes the same as some people don't like 3 peice boxes, i value my enjoyment of music so it needs a good sounding box to go with it, one member said the 3d7 sounds better and i would agree with that, i mean why use a basic sounding box when you can use a good sounding one, i just don't get it lads lol
 

sun209union

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Guys can i ask why everyone on here says its only worth at best £100-200 im confused, NO its deffo not worth £820 or possibly the £420 it first sold for, i have one of these in my collection very close to mint and all working there a nice box seem well built great sound for its size a fairly heavy machine and i paid out £350 if some of you on here say they wouldn't pay more than £50 why do i see boxes some of lesser makes in well used and abused state mainly not working sell easily around £100-£200 or more, Am i missing something somewhere? isnt Panasonic any good ?
 

Superduper

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sun209union said:
Guys can i ask why everyone on here says its only worth at best £100-200 im confused, NO its deffo not worth £820 or possibly the £420 it first sold for, i have one of these in my collection very close to mint and all working there a nice box seem well built great sound for its size a fairly heavy machine and i paid out £350 if some of you on here say they wouldn't pay more than £50 why do i see boxes some of lesser makes in well used and abused state mainly not working sell easily around £100-£200 or more, Am i missing something somewhere? isnt Panasonic any good ?
Ignore them. A box is worth what someone is willing to pay, and on eBay, it generally takes 2 bidders that are willing to pay a certain price for the final-price to escalate to that point. This all presumes that it's an honest auction free from external interference and shenanigans. Many of these guys personally won't pay much for a box like this but it could be for many reasons including bias, personal taste and preference, etc. However, that is why they did not bid, or bid much, and also why they didn't and wouldn't win an auction like this. The only thing that matters is what are YOU willing to pay. Even on the JVC M-90 where sales prices frequently exceed $1000 usd, there are folks that simply won't pay more than a couple hundred. Some have lucked out and found one for cheap at estate sales, CL, or other such venues but they are the exceptions. In general, those that aren't willing to pay the usual going rates are typically still looking. I can honestly say that while I personally regard that model highly, it wouldn't be worth £820 to me since a personal or sentimental component would need to be present. But that's me. Lastly, Panasonic made some darn good boomboxes so reputation is not a concern.
 

Northerner

Boomus Fidelis
I paid £18 on eBay for a good condition all working 5250 lol

The very definition of financial value is what someone is willing to pay for it...so by its very nature it's gonna vary massively based on the person.

If you're happy paying what you do then it's all good!
 

Reli

Boomus Fidelis
Northerner said:
I paid £18 on eBay for a good condition all working 5250 lol
Probably because it was poorly photographed, poorly described, didn't have the right search words, or it ended when most people were asleep
 

sun209union

Member (SA)
Superduper said:
Guys can i ask why everyone on here says its only worth at best £100-200 im confused, NO its deffo not worth £820 or possibly the £420 it first sold for, i have one of these in my collection very close to mint and all working there a nice box seem well built great sound for its size a fairly heavy machine and i paid out £350 if some of you on here say they wouldn't pay more than £50 why do i see boxes some of lesser makes in well used and abused state mainly not working sell easily around £100-£200 or more, Am i missing something somewhere? isnt Panasonic any good ?
Ignore them. A box is worth what someone is willing to pay, and on eBay, it generally takes 2 bidders that are willing to pay a certain price for the final-price to escalate to that point. This all presumes that it's an honest auction free from external interference and shenanigans. Many of these guys personally won't pay much for a box like this but it could be for many reasons including bias, personal taste and preference, etc. However, that is why they did not bid, or bid much, and also why they didn't and wouldn't win an auction like this. The only thing that matters is what are YOU willing to pay. Even on the JVC M-90 where sales prices frequently exceed $1000 usd, there are folks that simply won't pay more than a couple hundred. Some have lucked out and found one for cheap at estate sales, CL, or other such venues but they are the exceptions. In general, those that aren't willing to pay the usual going rates are typically still looking. I can honestly say that while I personally regard that model highly, it wouldn't be worth £820 to me since a personal or sentimental component would need to be present. But that's me. Lastly, Panasonic made some darn good boomboxes so reputation is not a concern.

yep very true these things are only really ever worth what someone's prepared to pay, you find the prices can be pushed up by such sales, if no one paid the high prices they would only fall, same as anything, I would love the JVC M-90 but a nice one is around £1000 if I had it ID happily buy it but for me it must be in top condition, I would sooner pay high for a top condition box than peanuts for a pig in a poke!! lol
 

MyOhMy

Member (SA)
Ha - it's relisted!

"The first buyer never got in contact, and the second buyer won it on
Wednesday said that he would have it payed for in full by the Sunday.
It is now Tuesday still no payment."

I couldn't fail to notice that the seller hasn't left any feedback at all relating to the two failed auction completions. :blink: :hmmm:
 

Reli

Boomus Fidelis
Yeah isn't it interesting how he hasn't sold it via Second Chance Offer..........Probably because none of the real bidders offered him even half what he wants. All the bids above that are probably shill bids by his girlfriend or whatever.
 

Radio raheem

Requiem Æternam
Another panic over lol, Norm is correct i guess, any box is worth what the buyer is willing to pay, providing there are no shinanigans of which there clearly was here.

I just don't like high prices lads, if you want to fault me for that then go ahead :-)

ps whether this box sells for £1 or £10000 i gave mine away as it was just to low end for me, just like the m70 is and plenty other boxes, that's all i guess
 
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