M90 Speaker color.

[Tinman]

Ok, I know this is a well discussed (maybe over discussed) topic but I had to put my 2 cents in.
I bought a "near mint" M90 last year from a seller I've bought several boxes from in the past.
He always described the conditions well but seeing pics online and seeing something in person can be two different things.
Before buying it, I noticed in his pics that the woofers were really blue so I thought they might have been painted.
After receiving it, the only real problems with this box were a few dents to the aluminum trim piece.
Someone took extremely good care of this and kept it clean and out of the light.
A few days ago I got around to taking it apart and putting some new belts in it.
While I had it apart, I removed the speakers to get a better look at them.
First off, I can guarantee that these speakers were never painted.
As you can see in the pics, not only are the woofers blue but so are the tweeters.
Here are some pics of all four.
Notice how clean the creases are on the woofers.

 

[Brutus442]

Interesting. I know this has been discussed at length here on BB, but my thoughts are JVC either altered their design or changed material suppliers mid way through production OR had regional designs made.
To explain this I'd point to their PC-55 / PC 550 line. They both have identical mechanics and stats but minutely different woofers when held side by side. No reason whatsoever to do this. Also the black 550 version was exclusive to Canada for some reason. Again I don't understand this from a business sense, but JVC seemed to strange things. While you're on this topic, check out the many threads revolving around the infamous orange/ red VU meters on the M90

Here's my PC-55 and PC-550 side by side (there also was a white version, again limited to one region only, not shown). They are identical except for the woofers...strange!

 

[floyd]

I've had m90s with gray speakers and ones with the blue speakers also had an M90 with a yellow Vu meters and one with red Vu meters the one with dark blue speakers and red Vu meters was the one I bought new the one I bought used had gray woofers and yellow Vu meter.

 

[floyd]

Interesting. I know this has been discussed at length here on BB, but my thoughts are JVC either altered their design or changed material suppliers mid way through production OR had regional designs made.
To explain this I'd point to their PC-55 / PC 550 line. They both have identical mechanics and stats but minutely different woofers when held side by side. No reason whatsoever to do this. Also the black 550 version was exclusive to Canada for some reason. Again I don't understand this from a business sense, but JVC seemed to strange things. While you're on this topic, check out the many threads revolving around the infamous orange/ red VU meters on the M90

Here's my PC-55 and PC-550 side by side (there also was a white version, again limited to one region only, not shown). They are identical except for the woofers...strange!
View attachment 51317

If JVC had just fitted these things with real speakers with much larger woofers I mean these boxes would be unbeatable.

 

[floyd]

If JVC had just fitted these things with real speakers with much larger woofers I mean these boxes would be unbeatable.

The speakers are great quality they're just too damn small.

 

[Brutus442]

The speakers are great quality they're just too damn small.

Bang on Floyd. These are powerhouses with speakers that are just not matched correctly. Even some small speaker can belt out great sound, just not these ones. It's too bad really...

 

[Tinman]

I just assumed the gray woofers were a result of the blue color fading.
I own several M90s and the woofer colors range from blue to gray to vanilla.
I definitely know about the red/orange VU meters.
The one with the blue woofers from above has red but I also have orange.
Again, I assumed the red faded to orange over time with light exposure.
I've seen the same on my tpr-950/955s.

 

[Brutus442]

I can only attest that my 90 was never exposed to the sun as it sat in a wood shop with no windows it it was gray. If any were sun bleached, I'd imagine there would be some areas of the speakers that would be slightly discoloured from the rest and not uniformly discoloured.

 

[Radio raheem]

Dont mean to diss anyone but the m90 woofers and vu's do fade over time......one of my m90's had red vu's but now there orange.....those m90 woofers look stunning buddy

 

[floyd]

Dont mean to diss anyone but the m90 woofers and vu's do fade over time......one of my m90's had red vu's but now there orange.....those m90 woofers look stunning buddy

Absolutely they look beautiful I consider myself an expert on these speakers being that I've owned a set since 1986 in my original M90 and I can say that the clear coat Sheen is spot on for a factory speaker.

 

[floyd]

All I can say is my original M90 and the one that I used to had blue speakers just like the ones in the picture anything else is not what I'm used to see when I look at this box.There's got to be some kind of color fading taking place because I've never seen a new M90 with gray speakers.

 

[floyd]

Also if you look at the back of the woofers they're always blue even if the front is gray.

 

[Radio raheem]

bang on homie btw fancy blowing up some shite monitor audio speakers lol

 

[Tinman]

Dont mean to diss anyone but the m90 woofers and vu's do fade over time......one of my m90's had red vu's but now there orange.....those m90 woofers look stunning buddy

Thanks, I feel lucky finding an M90 in the condition this one is.
It's definitely a keeper for me.

 

[Tinman]

I can only attest that my 90 was never exposed to the sun as it sat in a wood shop with no windows it it was gray. If any were sun bleached, I'd imagine there would be some areas of the speakers that would be slightly discoloured from the rest and not uniformly discoloured.

My thinking is that maybe any kind of light exposure could fade them.
Again, this M90 was definitely tucked away somewhere (possibly in plastic) because there was no dust any where on or in this.
I was amazed.

 

[Brutus442]

My thinking is that maybe any kind of light exposure could fade them.

Possible but if that were the case, every 90 would have faded speakers, would they not? I truly believe they had few changes during it's production duration, as I can see it with the 55/ 500's. But that's my HO.

 

[Eric]

I think there is some type of fading. Does it seem like the back of the speakers are usually blue or am I incorrect in that thought? You can see in my avatar just a little bit of gray starting to occur. Tinman the speakers are perfect, what a score.

 

[Tinman]

Possible but if that were the case, every 90 would have faded speakers, would they not?

Maybe only if they were exposed for years.
It's possible some weren't used much and were put away somewhere dark like a closet, attic or basement.
What amazes me is the tweeters are still blue (I never knew they were to begin with) and they have no protective coating.
My other M90 tweeters are no where near being blue.
One had tweeters stained like they'd gotten wet.
They were so bad the paper was literally disintegrating.

 

[Hisrudeness]

 

[Hisrudeness]

These are my two above. I’m not sure if the speakers are sun damaged as there is a chance they could have changed the poly covering mid production, I don’t really know. The vu meters and the reddish strip in the tuner plate I’m sure has some uv fading.