JVC RC M90

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Vintage Man

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Hey brothers! Been a while.. So I need a question answered... What makes a JVC its code. Example. C JW W . I know the jw offers voltage selection. Not sure about the w. But the famous C versions. More power than its brothers. So what is it about the C version that makes it more powerful. And sought after. The chassis is the same as all? Is it the power supply.... In the M90's case. It's on the back panel. I heard the C version is a rebranded version of the Japanese one. Hence 100volts?
 

hollyrockets

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This is just a guess and trying to remember what others have said... C is for Canada. JW is for the US. W is for .. I can't remember... I think it was released in Europe or something. I'm sure others here will know the answer to this... :hmmm:
 

Vintage Man

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hollyrockets said:
This is just a guess and trying to remember what others have said... C is for Canada. JW is for the US. W is for .. I can't remember... I think it was released in Europe or something. I'm sure others here will know the answer to this... :hmmm:
yes... this is true... but why is the C version more powerfull????
 

Vintage Man

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Yep. Right you are Skippy... But what makes a JVC RCM90C Big Power? Over the others??? The chassis. Or the transformer? It must be a 100 volt Japanese version rebranded for Canada. Too keep up with demand. They took those versions and branded them a C. A 100 volt box. Will put out more watts when drivin with 120 volts.
 

Cpl-Chronic

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Heyya, =)

Yeah, that was my theory about the 100v Japan version being passed by CSA approval & rebranded a C version. If you take the 100v power circuit & put 115 volts through it, 1.15 x 40w = 46w & 1.2 x 40w = 48w so my guess is the C versions are running 100v JAPAN power supplies for Canadian versions & JVC split the difference & labeled them at 47w....makes sense.

If you apply the same logic to the M90, a C version would be 70w, SURPRISE!! The logic still fits...

Cheers,
Cpl
 

baddboybill

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Cpl-Chronic said:
Heyya, =)

Yeah, that was my theory about the 100v Japan version being passed by CSA approval & rebranded a C version. If you take the 100v power circuit & put 115 volts through it, 1.15 x 40w = 46w & 1.2 x 40w = 48w so my guess is the C versions are running 100v JAPAN power supplies for Canadian versions & JVC split the difference & labeled them at 47w....makes sense.

If you apply the same logic to the M90, a C version would be 70w, SURPRISE!! The logic still fits...

Cheers,
Cpl
Then how do figure for 240 volts?? And the 47 watt your speaking of is the M70 input not M90. I had the W version which was rated at 70 watts. I think the reason for the different wattage input is because they used 2 different manufactured amp chips. A Panasonic chip which is used in 61 watt version and the Sanyo chip which is 70 watt version. So in essence the Sanyo chip uses up more wattage. We did have a thread on the different models and wattages a while ago :yes:

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Beosystem10

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Wouldn't the consumption be slightly worse for the 240/250V version as there'd be more heat loss in the primary? Besides that, the average of output in RMS to consumption as a ratio seems - from a quick glance at the boxes I have standing around - to be around a third of the amount it consumes if the mains supply were even relevant, which it isn't.
This JVC of mine is a 12V box that consumes 62 Watts (see label top of the back left of the cable guard as you see it) and has a power output of 11wpc in real (RMS) Watts. That this box is run on a mains supply that regularly reaches 260VAC at off peak times and averages 253VAC makes no odds, it's supply is 12VDC from either its 8 Ds or the secondary of its (original) PSU.


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(& LB is a UK-spec version in this case, I checked the TX from my spare one of these and its windings, when compared to each other, suggest that in spite of it saying 240V on there it is going to provide a steady 13.8VDC from the 250V supply so is it not just as likely that the 100V version of the M90 has the same TX in its PSU as the 117V version? The percentage difference is only slightly greater between 220 and 253 than it is between 100 and 117. It's only Euro-spec boxes that I've found wanting with their 220V secs failing when connected to a larger pd at the floor). :-)
 

Cpl-Chronic

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Interesting...Can anyone say for sure there are 2 different amp chips in the M70 too? The math holds up for my theory but I may be wrong. It just fit logically to ,me..

Cheers,
Cpl
 

Vintage Man

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Good input! Just trying too figure it out because I have 2 M90 chassis. One is a M90 C . the other one I'm not sure.... Don't want too sell the C one if that's where the extra power comes from... If its just the power supply on the back case. Then I'm good either way.
 
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