If You Want To Ruin Your Day........

[Nickeccles]

Re-belt a Sanyo C3

I bought one of these just after I had the stroke thinking it would be an easy fix.........The condition wasn't great either & as I was still learning to do stuff again!! So I learnt very quickly that day that these are a real pig to dismantle & re-belt & soon gave up, put it back together & forgot about it!!

So a couple of weeks ago I spotted & bought this mint C3 for just £15

knowing it was going to need belts - only this time, I had all the special hooking tools to get them on as well as some idea of what was to come........

Well, I got inside it easily enough - & I noticed even four years later that this model was totally different inside

Main difference: This one has Dolby B whereas the older version (I guess) didn't have???

Also the power amp board has moved to the rear of the tape mechanism using the pressed steel chassis for extra heat sink duties!

Unfortunately this means moving unrouting many more cables & cutting cable ties & replacing with new ones on reassembly!
Once I reached the deck it's very tricky to get the flat belt on the flywheel & the motor pulley - The flat belt is tiny, the motor being very close to the flywheel & with still very limited access, it's a hell of a pain to get it on correctly..........

The also tiny square belt is easier using hooking tools & long tweezers, 2 or 3 attempts got it on fine!!
Time to reassemble check operation & clean the heads & pinch roller!

Everything working perfectly! I was so pleased to have caught up with the even keels with this C3 which needed minimal cleaning as it was already spotless!!

Sound is fine on these models, nothing to set the the world on fire, but nice clean sound with a great tuner & tape deck!

Am pleased to have a good example of a C3 now to add to the collection...........

A free C3 (Non Dolby) version anyone?? & I am NOT doing the the belts on the old one - That's is all it needs nothing more!!!

Et Viola:







https://youtu.be/-db1A9PdtPo

Hi-Res Images Here:

https://onedrive.live.com/?id=BEA218B70F2B18D1%2130711&cid=BEA218B70F2B18D1


& Here is my old one needing just the belts replacing..........




https://onedrive.live.com/?id=BEA218B70F2B18D1%216603&cid=BEA218B70F2B18D1

 

[MyOhMy]

Ya nailed it at last! I think this is another really nice looking box in your collection, well done for persevering and never being beaten.

 

[Radio raheem]

wouldn't want a c3 too mickey mouse but congrats for doing it lad

 

[Superduper]

wouldn't want a c3 too mickey mouse but congrats for doing it lad

I’ve been biting my tongue every time I see you post something like this but what’s wrong with you dude? Didn’t your mama ever teach you that if you don’t have something nice to say, keep it to yourself. And no, adding congrats doesn’t temper the “it’s Mickey Mouse” comment. The fella was sharing a happy and proud moment & you just gotta do your best to ruin it? Sheesh. There was a time when anytime someone shared something like this, others would welcome, encourage or give kudos. Now, someone always got to chime in and find negatives, nit pick or say how it’s rubbish compared to some other box, some of which might cost 20x more & the size of a house.

 

[Radio raheem]

your're kinda wright my friend im guilty but what can i say, i need to learn from good respecting memers as your self, the trouble with things like the m90 only just cut it for me in other words they sound kind of low end, Norm, maybe im in the wrong game but i need the best out of a box as i love good sound as much as the music, im guilty of this and always will be my friend, no disrespect to Nick he is one of the best on here

 

[Superduper]

Look, I love the M90, it’s great but I also have eggs & nearly everything in between. I’m a Boombox enthusiast/collector, not an M90 only fanatic. If you wanna stock your home with 20 M90’s, that’s perfectly fine, we got a member that probably has 200 C100’s but last I checked, he never trashed everything else that isn’t a C100.

Being an M90 lover once again is perfectly fine but if you have this bias, you should probably rethink what you’re going to say or even if you should say anything if it’s going to start with comparing it to an M90 (unless that’s what is being asked). I’m just saying.

This used to be a happy place to congregate. Do we keep it that way anymore because lately, it seems like many threads evolve into calling out all the negatives in anything. And that hurts the hobby.

After all....

This: “I just got this Boombox!”, Response: “wow great score & terrific job cleaning it.”

OR This: “Look what just arrived today!”, Response: “well it has horrible bass & the tweeters are fake, not something I would buy.”

Tell me how you think a new collector will feel about his new found hobby based on either of the above? If the threads are all like the former, then this hobby will go far. If the threads are all like the latter, then good luck because the hobby is gonna be in trouble since that’s not how to promote & expand interest in something. Nobody wants to see a box he/she loves be trashed and truth be told, it’s utterly stupid to put down & compare a £15 box with another box that sells for $800/beater $2500+/nice.

 

[Radio raheem]

Norm you didn't read my post correctly bro, if an m90 sounds mickey mouse to me what am i suposed to say.....i hear you but people always nearly always ask on any box before they buy it....how does it sound, im not the only one who cares about what they buy, just because a box costs 3000$ dosnt mean it's worth the money, ie discolight

 

[Radio raheem]

mean while 30 of my radios have just fallen, trashing to the floor, im sick of this hobby

 

[Jorge]

I Love the title, esp when combined with the last sentense/offer from St.Nick: Ruin Your Day, For Free!!!
I actually chuckle every time I finish, as today, yet another neglected baby bbox: one more "mickey mouse" resurrected. Today it is Superscope from 1974, my first three-piecer!

 

[Northerner]

To be fair to Reno it’s Nick who uses the term ‘Mickey Mouse’ on a daily basis

It’s immensely satisfying when you resurrect a difficult one...congrats Nick

 

[samovar]

Another Sanyo salvaged from oblivion, I cannot but approve! Well done Nick

 

[Nickeccles]

I'm preparing my 'Mickey Mouse Parade' line up to post very soon for amusement value of course!! This C3 was in such nice condition I had to save it despite knowing what lay ahead!! I like the C range, great value Compo's!

The offer of my other C3 for free is genuine, just pay for courier & you have 1 ruined day for free!!

 

[deech]

Nick, you ve done such a nice job for once more ! The Sanyo C3 is totally worth it for sure.
Its one of my favourites. Thanks for all the pictures and the detailed info you are sharing.
One of the things i like cosmetically on this compo
is the little window with the LEDs it has and how it is displayed at the the bottom right
of the main unit.
What i will add in this topic is a Pic of an aka that i have in my colection.
It is the Fisher PH-420 .
Now i dont want to hijack the thread but it would be nice to read
from you guys which one do you think it looks nicer ? The Sanyo C3 or the Fisher PH-420 ?

 

[Jorge]

from you guys which one do you think it looks nicer ? The Sanyo C3 or the Fisher PH-420 ?

Fisher gets extra points for the blue stripe, love it!! But extra chrome-plating, (brushed?) metal accents, and especially those dreamy tweeter grilles make Sanyo the winner for me. I tried to imagine Fisher painted in that Marantz brownish-greenish color and immediately fell in love with it

 

[Reli]

I like the dark tuner dial and dark meter window of the Fisher, because they make the LED's show up better.
But for those people who like lots of chrome, the Sanyo has more of it.

 

[Fatdog]

I hate it when companies use a huge speaker grille to give the illusion of an actual huge speaker. :annoyed:

 

[floyd]

I hate it when companies use a huge speaker grille to give the illusion of an actual huge speaker. :annoyed:

I think the only thing worse than a big grill with a small speaker is a small speaker box with a giant looking speaker its like stupid because the box looks too small for the speakers.

mean while 30 of my radios have just fallen, trashing to the floor, im sick of this hobby

dude if your **** fell down its because you can't stack **** all wonky and expect the mother fuker to stand up on its own.

 

[Reli]

mean while 30 of my radios have just fallen, trashing to the floor, im sick of this hobby

I am sorry to hear that

 

[Jorge]

Oh, NO!!! Huge driver extending the sides of the box, is this called "power bulge" in muscle-cars? Very pimp, love it! although wouldn't want to own such thing for myself
I guess the only thing I "hate" is a horn-loaded piezo tweeters, as in Philips D8444

Reno must have attracted some bad vibes onto his babies, a warning not to cross the gentle folks here

 

[Nickeccles]

I think these are only 4 or 5 inch woofers in these - & this was where cost savings were made with sooooo many one & three piece stereo's: The loudspeakers! I bet a pair of more modern high 93db big magnet 4 inchers would change everything! Doesn't always work though I am told & having only done 3 or 4 speaker transplants, I couldn't say confidently that it's always a good idea!! The Panasonic 4 inch co-axial speakers I replaced in my JVC PC-5 though..........They are stupendously good & having a real tweeter instead of the pretty good full range originals makes a hell of a difference!! Like a real hi-fi as opposed to a boombox, it was a match made in heaven!! Not bad for a pair of speakers I bought from a second hand shop boxed for £6 some 5 years earlier & my PC-5 from another junk shop........£10 A lot of love & restoring later, it remains pretty much top of the heap & sounds superb!! Maybe a pinned thread for those of us that do replace speakers & experiment with them - Sharing the results would be ace!!

Nick, you ve done such a nice job for once more ! The Sanyo C3 is totally worth it for sure.
Its one of my favourites. Thanks for all the pictures and the detailed info you are sharing.
One of the things i like cosmetically on this compo
is the little window with the LEDs it has and how it is displayed at the the bottom right
of the main unit.
What i will add in this topic is a Pic of an aka that i have in my colection.
It is the Fisher PH-420 .
Now i dont want to hijack the thread but it would be nice to read
from you guys which one do you think it looks nicer ? The Sanyo C3 or the Fisher PH-420 ?

fisher 420 f.jpg

Hey!!

The Fisher has both bass & treble controls!!

& music search!!

That's not fair!!

Sanyo version looks nicer for me though.............