** DIY V4.0 build thread **

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Hi Guys,

Well I've recently sold my big boy DIY V2.0 to a local guy who fell in love with the relentless bass and badass looks of the heavy weight brute!

The plan was to build a replacement for the V2.0 but after a little consideration, I thought it would be great to have an easily portable box that was a bit bigger than my original V1.0 box but with improved sound quality and a more refined overall design.

So the new V4.0 box was to be the same width as the V1.0 but taller and substantially deeper to achieve a big increase in the volume of air the driver would see to boost the bass achievable with a 6 inch, 6 ohm home Hi Fi speaker.

When I start these projects, I always have an idea what I want to achieve whilst keeping the size and weight under control as I always use these things outdoors. I tend to stick with sealed and separated speaker cabinets as they need to be around 20% smaller than an equivalent ported cabinet. Below is a chart detailing what m3 each size speaker needs to create strong and deep bass in a sealed cabinet application:

4" ======== .25 - .39 cubic feet
6" ======== .35 - .54 cubic feet **
8" ======== .54 - .96 cubic feet
10" ======= .96 - 1.8 cubic feet
12" ======= 1.8 - 3.5 cubic feet

My cabinets worked out to be bang on .38 cubic feet each which brings the V4.0 specs just within spec according to the Hi Fi experts. You can see just how big each individual cabinet really needs to be to achieve strong lows. Each cabinet would also be filled with acoustic fill to further increase the volume of air the speaker would 'see'.

Anyway, here we go. First up, I cut and glued the base and front panels + the internal walls. The top, bottom and side panels are 3/4 inch plywood with the front and back panels dropping to 1/2 inch ply:

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After allowing the glue to dry overnight, it was time to attach the side and top panels. Here is a side by side shot of the box at this build stage beside the V1.0 box for size comparison:
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For the V4.0 box, I changed the design of the access door by moving it to the rear panel. I also enlarged the door and made it flush with the surrounding panel.

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As usual, lots of sanding, filling, sanding and spray painting later I had an empty box with holes in it! :-)

Time to load up the electrics, speakers and wiring. I also changed the charging plug from a bulky female cigarette lighter style plug to a standard style 3mm plug. Volt meter, amp and switches are all carry overs from previous versions.

So here she is completed:
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I'm still waiting on a new Bluetooth receiver that I ordered from Joe. I've readied the wiring so only around 10 minutes work is required to equip this box with Bluetooth 4.0. So it's RCA inputs only for the time being.

Total weight fully loaded came in at exactly 12 kilos.

Total build time was 4 days (2 weekends). My first box took me a month!!

After sealing up the wiring holes with hot glue tonight, I think the speaker cabinets are now air tight. Even small air leaks can drastically affect bass performance!!

In summary, the sound quality (bass and treble) is very close to the big V2.0 box. The smaller 6 inch speakers don't go quite as low as the 8 inchers in the V2.0 but the bass is fast, tight and deeper than any other 6 inch speaker I've ever heard. The silk dome tweeters sound very sweet and round out the sound signature nicely. BTW, all speakers used in the V4.0 are
roadside finds! :-)

Very happy overall - the V4.0 is a very big step up performance wise from my first effort V1.0 box. The cabinets in the V1.0 just weren't big enough to allow the strength of bass I was after. :-)

James..... :-)View attachment 24705View attachment 24706View attachment 24707
 

hardmen

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Freaking nice work Jimmy!!!

Mine Wooden GF still needs a front grill, for finishing with a full of graffiti arts... ...maybe by myself!

Cheers.
 
hardmen said:
Freaking nice work Jimmy!!!
Mine Wooden GF still needs a front grill, for finishing with a full of graffiti arts... ...maybe by myself!
Cheers.
Thanks hardman! I agree with what you said the other day about sometimes wanting a box that is just plain LOUD and BASSY!!!

My DIY boxes have actually increased my interest in my vintage boxes! I find the DIY boxes take the pressure off the old boys when I want it SCREAMING LOUD outdoors!!!! :-)
 

blu_fuz

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I will get to the post office today and see what's up with the BT module. This setup is looking good.
 
Lasonic TRC-920 said:
Wow man, each build you do is more evolved. Wish I could hear one of theseSent from my SM-G925V using Tapatalk
I'll make a video soon but as we all know, any box you video always ends up sounding like a 6 volt tone box on YouTube.

Regarding the sound of the V4.0 imagine this: The depth of bass of the RX-DT680 but only deeper and much louder and stronger. The big, airtight speaker cabinets control the excessive movement of the driver speaker cones thus reducing distortion and keeping the bass sounding tight and controlled - no flappy drone, no boomy hollow sounding bass.

Just a solid thump like a short, sharp punch to the chest when the bass hits.

To anyone out there contemplating such a rediculous project - you'll be amazed how good sounding a unit you can build when you follow the basic rules of Hi Fi speaker cabinet design - Solid construction, correctly sized & shaped enclosures for the type and size of speaker, sufficient power to run those speakers and a suitable 'clean' power source. Then all you have to do is somewhow make it light enough to lug around with you when your outdoors!! :-)

DIY V5.0 is now underway!! :-)
 

Lasonic TRC-920

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I'll make a video soon but as we all know, any box you video always ends up sounding like a 6 volt tone box on YouTube.

Regarding the sound of the V4.0 imagine this: The depth of bass of the RX-DT680 but only deeper + about 3 times louder and stronger. The big, airtight speaker cabinets control the excessive movement of the driver speaker cones thus reducing distortion and keeping the bass sounding tight and controlled - no flappy drone, no boomy hollow sounding bass.

Just a solid thump like a short, sharp punch to the chest when the bass hits.

To anyone out there contemplating such a rediculous project - you will be amazed how good sounding a unit you can build when you follow the basic rules of Hi Fi speaker cabinet design. Solid construction, correctly sized enclosures for the type and size of speaker, sufficient power to run those speakers and a suitable 'clean' power source. Then all you have to do is somewhow make it light enough to lug around with you when your outdoors!! :-)

DIY V5.0 is now underway!! :-)

So basically everything we wished our classic Boomboxes sounded like :unsure:
 
Lasonic TRC-920 said:
So basically everything we wished our classic Boomboxes sounded like :unsure:
That's pretty much why I started building them :-)
Plus I can't afford the D cells!

I know that these builds aren't really the reason for this forums' existence and as such, I don't really want to compare the DIY sound to individual boomboxes - (except the 680) :-)

I think we'd all agree that vintage boomboxes still rule the roost, the looks, the styling and the history! No DIY box can ever hope to compete on those scores :-)
 

Lasonic TRC-920

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That's pretty much why I started building them :-)
Plus I can't afford the D cells!

I know that these builds aren't really the reason for this forums' existence and as such, I don't really want to compare the DIY sound to individual boomboxes - (except the 680) :-)

I think we'd all agree that vintage boomboxes still rule the roost, the looks, the styling and the history! No DIY box can ever hope to compete on those scores :-)

I hear what your saying, our beloved blasters are what they are. But I appreciate what your doing :lol:
 
oldskool69 said:
That is some heavy (literally as well) work! The first one was awesome! And now this! :thumbsup:
Thanks man. I can also say that all 4 DIY boxes I have built to date have been 100% reliable with no issues what so ever. Pretty amazing considering all wiring, speakers and cross overs are all vintage and I drive these boxes very hard particularly when I'm cranking outdoors.

James.... :-)
 
Saturday 6/2/16 update:

I've been tinkering again! Just can't leave things alone. :-) I've been wanting to try out a different set of drivers for the V4.0 box. The 6 ohm Aiwas sounded nice and clear but I still wanted more bass. I had a feeling the big V4.0 speaker cabinets had more bass potential.

So I robbed the V1.0 box of its Pioneer 6.80 inch drivers for a look and listen exercise. One major benefit of 4 ohm drivers is the fact that they pull more power out of the amp with the potential of making it substantially louder.

So after a couple of hours work, (I had to swap crossovers etc) I had the Pioneers loaded into the V4.0. After a quick listen, I found that the Pioneers were indeed much louder than the 6 inch Aiwas. The Pioneers seem to be a better match to the 4 ohm silk dome tweeters which fixed the excessive mids issue.

The Pioneer drivers are also much bassier than the smaller Aiwas. All this extra bass and associated airflow did show up a flaw in my original built though - the tweeters were leaking a tonne of air when the bass hit. As you guys know, a sealed cabinet setup like this needs airtight speaker cabinets for maximum bass.

After another hour of work, I now had the tweeters sealed up tight.

Man, the bass now drops 10+ hertz lower than before I sealed the tweeters - amazing difference. So it's now much louder, bassier and deeper!! :-)

Total weight has bumped up to a still managable 12.80 kgs with the heavier Pioneer drivers.

Here she is outside cranking harder than ever!! :-) lovin it!! :-)
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JustCruisin

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Hey James it's 2016! :lol:
(I have yet to write it myself on anything this year)

I'm loving the edges and fitment of that box btw.. :thumbsup:
 

T-STER

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Any chance of some step by step guide to wiring the electronics? I am handy with wood and have considered doing this for ages but felt the wiring may be beyond me.

Very cool project man, I would love to hear one of these bad boys!
 
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