JVC M90 Tape deck brakes don't disengage, fwd/rwd/play all don't work

Superduper

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I hate to always sound so negative but everything I've learned is that acids & electronics do not mix. So I think some care needs to be exercised here, especially when entire switches and assemblies are dunked. Those switches are fairly well sealed when assembled (especially the record bar) and while acid may eventually eat off oxidation (depending upon how long it is soaked), it also will be extremely difficult to remove all of the acid internally unless disassembled. So eventually, corrosion may create more problems than it solves in the short term if not all of the acid is removed.

It's true that oxidation on many switches cleaned with deoxit will eventually return, but that's because only the contact points were cleaned during a spray and agitation process. The rest of the internal surfaces that remained oxidized will eventually spread again to and affect the contact points. So the solution is to disassemble the switches and mechanically remove all of the oxidation before treating and applying with some contact preservative, such as deoxit D100, and this should provide a lasting repair. However, this requires disassembly to do, and there is a real risk of damaging the fragile internal sliding leaf contacts in the bar shaped switches as that bar is really hard to reassemble and line up all the leafs without bending or mangling.

Unfortunately, I personally would not feel comfortable that I'd be able to remove all the vinegar from inside a soaked switch unless I disassembled it. However, if disassembly is on the agenda, then there's no reason to use acid to begin with. One last thing... many contacts are plated. Would an acid soak remove or damage some of the plating? Even if you can re-soak in water for an extended period of time, since there is no flushing action internally, it just seems to me that the acid that permeated internally might be diluted at best, and diluted acid isn't as damaging as a stronger acid, but it's there and has all the time in the world. Now, to be fair, I don't personally know, since I've no experience using vinegar, and certainly no long term experience. As such, I'm no expert on the effect of long term consequences of using vinegar bath as a switch cleaning method. I'm just thinking out loud.

One last note, from memory, the M90 does not have a record bar like most boomboxes. I'm pretty sure the R/P switches is done electronically.
 

stragulus

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I did take one switch apart 2 months ago, and I'm never doing that again. I'm lucky that it went back fully working. And this was a short switch, those longer ones.... brrr. These switches were *so* dirty though. I had to do something. Maybe an ultrasonic cleaner would be better? Have you managed to fix all super filthy switches with just DeOxit?

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stragulus

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When I disassembled one switch, I struggled putting it back together. You have to put all the small leaf contacts back in place exactly where they need to be, or the top won't fit on and you cannot apply any pressure just in case any of them are not placed exactly right. Such a delicate process..

I've reassembled everything, works as new. I'll spray a bit of D100 in them to give them a little lubrication. Can't say anything about the longevity, other than that the switches I treated 2 months ago are still working like new as of today.
 

Superduper

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stragulus said:
When I disassembled one switch, I struggled putting it back together. You have to put all the small leaf contacts back in place exactly where they need to be, or the top won't fit on and you cannot apply any pressure just in case any of them are not placed exactly right. Such a delicate process..
Exactly, this is why I am so hesitatant to recommend disassembling the long switches. They are so very fragile, and the longer the switch (record bar?), the more difficult and exacting the process. On long switches, every single leaf has to be in the perfect position before reassembly or it simply won't go together, or if it does, you will likely damage the leafs. On something like a record/playback switch where its presence is essential in order to prevent a "bricked" set, it's risky business indeed. On the other hand, almost every such switch I disassembled had enough oxidation where the stationary posts are all black color when they should be silver. By injecting deoxit and mechanical agitation of the switch, you will scrub off the oxidation but only on the small fine contact points. The rest of the surfaces are still oxidized and black and it doesn't take long for it to eventually spread back to the cleaned surfaces again.
 

Radiola

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I love the JVC M-90 boombox. I think it is the biggest one in the world. It was sold in the middle of 80's when I was a child. I did'nt bought it, because I had'nt money of DM 998.-.