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#1 MyOhMy

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Posted 04 June 2016 - 06:29 AM

Hi Everyone,

 

Since I reclaimed my Sharp GF-9000 (thread HERE) and subsequently joined this forum I have found that my interest (not expertise!) in all things Audio has been rekindled. So............

 

I recently acquired a Pioneer SX-450 Receiver/Amp, Pioneer CT-F700 Cassette Deck and a Pioneer PL-117D Turntable, the turntable being my primary motivation for buying this stack so I would have a turntable for my BB's.

 

You guys on this forum gave me the confidence to open up the tuner/amp and the tape deck to service & clean everything and carry out a couple of successful repairs to the malfunctioning/broken deck door, change belts etc., etc.  Since this system is now all but looking & functioning as minty as it possibly could, I need to invest in some decent quality speakers - and this is where I need help due to my ignorance of such matters.

 

I've looked for info online and, for the most part, I'm confronted by techno-freaks trying to out-do each other in the Best Nerd Contest.  most of the other info I find fills me to point of technical information overflow.  I'd appreciate any help you guys can impart and, to help, I'll provide this information to you:

 

Speaker environment

Speaker to be located in my rather modest sized living room, well spaced apart and away from the Hi-Fi.

I live in a semi-detached bungalow with the neighbour's (partially deaf :-D ) living room adjacent to mine although I do have the opportunity for blasting out on occasion if I need.  Most of the time low volumes will be used for soft background music during the evenings.

 

Music types played 

A good mixed bunch from Hendrix to Vivaldi, easy listening to the wonderful sounds of Mantovani, country, rock, reggae, pop, club, blues etc., etc. so a real mix of all sorts.

 

Physical Size/Type

No floor standing, just 'regular shape' will do nicely.  I can site them off the floor or on large shelves, I can have the whole speaker space/shelf cavity covered with cloth/metal/whatever grill material so appearance isn't an issue.  If the need arises to acoustically pad out the shelves I can take care of this as any padding would be hidden behind the 'grill cover façade' on the shelving'.

 

Maximum sizes (ish) are width: 14"(360mm), maximum height: 24"(600mm), maximum depth: 14"(360mm).

 

Amplifier Technical Details

The User Manual has the following information, I'm not sure if this what you need to read or not but here goes:

"Continuous output of 15 watts per channel, min RMS, at 8 or 4 ohms from 20 Hertz with no more than 0.5% total harmonic distortion".

There's a whole lot of other system spec stuff that means nothing to me but may be important, I can't decide as I'm far too technically challenged but I'm sure you'll let me know if you need more.

 

This is an image from the rear of the Amp:

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Let me know if I can provide any more info with the spec, please.

 

Other Points

I don't want too small or anything the size of a bard door!

The (alcove) shelving will be made to suit the speakers so no issues there.

I can't say "money isn't an issue" because it is so freebies would be nice but, other than that, I'll budget up to about £300.

I feel that one pair of speakers would suffice due to the size of the room.

 

Most of what I have seen advertised on various sites (2nd hand) has scant details such as "6 ohms" or "20 watts" so I don't really know if I'd be making a good choice or not or even if there is more to consider than this basic info.  2-Way/3-way?  I've no idea!  I just want to enjoy a decent quality output from the Pioneer Hi-Fi when playing tapes and vinyl.

 

Thanks guys, please form an orderly queue.............................................. :-D



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Posted 05 June 2016 - 05:46 AM

Anyone?

 

Just thought I'd clarify that I'm not asking for a specific speaker type/brand/spec or expecting anyone to take on a search on my brhalf but rather an indication such as:

 

Go for three-way.

 

Avoid anything over 10 years old,

 

Don't buy brand 'X'

 

Get speaker between 'X' & 'Y' watts.

 

That's it. :yes:

 

Thanks, guys.



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Posted 05 June 2016 - 11:36 AM

I wouldn't bother with used speakers, as the surrounds might be torn, the voice coils might be damaged, and the seller probably wouldn't tell you.  There are plenty of new bookshelf speakers you can get for $200 or less. At only 15 watts per channel there isn't any need for giant ones.  I would look for bookshelf speakers from Polk, Klipsch, Sony, Boston Acoustics, etc. with a 5" woofer, and about 11-12" tall. 

 

2-way speakers are fine, as there really is no need for 3-way / 4-way / 5-way etc. unless it's a big floor-standing speaker.

 

Try to find the "sensitivity" specs.  The higher the sensitivity, the more volume it can put out per watt of input power.  Which is helpful for modest-powered receivers like yours.  Look for a sensitivity rating of at LEAST 90, no less. 

 

They should also ideally be 4 Ohm speakers.  6 Ohm would be OK too, but they have more resistance, so they would not be able to go as loud.  I don't think I'd recommend 8 Ohm speakers with that particular receiver.



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Posted 05 June 2016 - 11:37 AM

I have a pair of the Polk Audio RTi4 and they are great sounding speakers.

 

The recommended amplifier power is:  20 to 125A watts and they are Dual Bi-amp.

 

Not the best looking speakers but it's the sound that matters!

 

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Posted 05 June 2016 - 11:46 AM

One other thing -- you can get more bass if the bass port is facing the rear, because you can position the speakers next to a wall and a shelf-side to reflect and amplify the bass.  Depends if you like boomy bass.



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Posted 05 June 2016 - 04:08 PM

Thanks, Guys for keeping the high-tech talk to a minimum - it's so helpful and kinder on my non-tech brain. :yes:

 

I wouldn't bother with used speakers, as the surrounds might be torn, and there are plenty of new bookshelf speakers you can get for $200 or less. At only 15 watts per channel there isn't any need for giant ones.  I would look for bookshelf speakers from Polk, Klipsch, Sony, Boston Acoustics, etc. with a 5" woofer, and about 11-12" tall. 

 

2-way speakers are fine, as there really is no need for 3-way / 4-way / 5-way etc. unless it's a big floor-standing speaker.

 

Try to find the "sensitivity" specs.  The higher the sensitivity, the more volume it can put out per watt of input power.  Which is helpful for modest-powered receivers like yours.  Look for a sensitivity rating of at LEAST 90, no less. 

 

They should also ideally be 4 Ohm speakers.  6 Ohm would be OK too, but they have more resistance, so they would not be able to go as loud.  I don't think I'd recommend 8 Ohm speakers with that particular receiver.

 

Thanks, Reli.  There's a whole lot of info there that'll be of enormous help to me and I had no idea about 'sensitivity' so that particular info will be of great help. :thumbsup:

 

 

I have a pair of the Polk Audio RTi4 and they are great sounding speakers.

 

The recommended amplifier power is:  20 to 125A watts and they are Dual Bi-amp.

 

Not the best looking speakers but it's the sound that matters!

 

attachicon.gifDSCF0808.JPGLook into Polk audio speakers.

 

Thanks ford93, I've made a note of this.  I've never heard of Polk before now (either that or I have forgotten) but, then again, I've been away from Hi-Fi for about 30 years. :dunce:

 

"One other thing -- you can get more bass if the bass port is facing the rear, because you can position the speakers next to a wall and a shelf-side to reflect and amplify the bass.  Depends if you like boomy bass."  Thanks again, Reli - rear facing bass ports it is then! :yes:

 

Again, thanks for the help.  I've noted all the comments in a .txt document and this is now a summary to guide me:

Bookshelf
4 ohms
2-way
$200 (or less?)
Brands: Polk, Klipsch, Sony, Boston Acoustics, etc.
Size: 5" woofer, and about 11-12" tall.
Rear facing bass ports



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Posted 05 June 2016 - 04:56 PM

Correction, 4 Ohms or more........But personally I would not go much higher than that, because it limits the power from the receiver.

 

And when I said 5" woofer and 11-12" tall I was just saying that tends to be what most mid-tier bookshelf speakers are.  But some have 4" speakers, some have 6".



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Posted 05 June 2016 - 10:34 PM

Don't be afraid to check out older speakers - they do tend to be better quality then some of the shiat they churn out today. I found a pair of these roadside freebie 5 ways last week and they sound very nice. These were made before the foam surround era and as such, their cloth surrounds are in perfect condition.

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Posted 06 June 2016 - 01:01 AM

Err...sorry no clue at all...I'm definitely not an audiophile. Sorry :-)

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Posted 06 June 2016 - 02:31 AM

Correction, 4 Ohms or more........But personally I would not go much higher than that, because it limits the power from the receiver.

 

And when I said 5" woofer and 11-12" tall I was just saying that tends to be what most mid-tier bookshelf speakers are.  But some have 4" speakers, some have 6".

 

Hi again.  Yes, I understand and got that.  "Just saying...": Yes, I got that too.  These are all suggestions & help I'll take on board.

 

 

Don't be afraid to check out older speakers - they do tend to be better quality then some of the shiat they churn out today. I found a pair of these roadside freebie 5 ways last week and they sound very nice. These were made before the foam surround era and as such, their cloth surrounds are in perfect condition.attachicon.gifimage.jpeg

 

Thanks JJ & All The Numbers!  OK then, no foam on older speakers to be considered.  WOW, I've never seen speakers like that before.

 

Err...sorry no clue at all...I'm definitely not an audiophile. Sorry :-)

 

Me neither, being ignorant of the knowledge and having a really bad memory is a real hindrance. :yes:

 

 

So far:

Bookshelf style, around 11-12" tall is a likely size.
4 ohms min, avoid going higher if possible but no more than 6 ohms.
2-way
$200 (or less?).
Brands: Polk, Klipsch, Sony, Boston Acoustics, etc.
Woofer Size: 5" (+/-1") woofer is usual for the physical speaker size.

No foam surrounds on woofer.

Rear facing bass ports.

 

Thanks again, Guys.  I now feel I'm getting there with this invaluable help. :thumbsup:



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Posted 06 June 2016 - 02:50 AM

If it's any help I did buy a Yamaha amp and Mission speakers for £25 and they sound frickin awesome :-)

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Posted 06 June 2016 - 03:00 AM

If it's any help I did buy a Yamaha amp and Mission speakers for £25 and they sound frickin awesome :-)

 

£25??? Nah................really?  I need to get out of Sleaford (no, me neither until I moved here!) more. :yes:



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Posted 06 June 2016 - 04:08 AM

You will struggle to find many proper HiFi speakers in 4 ohms. Don't worry, that SX amp will run 8 ohm speakers fine.

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Posted 06 June 2016 - 07:44 AM

My motto is 'go big or go home' so I have no input to give you regarding that size of speaker.

 

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Posted 06 June 2016 - 08:23 AM

I would look for some Klipsch RB-51 II, they are great quality and very sensitive, and the bass goes low.

 

If you don't want to spend that much money, get some Infinity P153 (or P163 if you have more room).  Cheap as hell.



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Posted 06 June 2016 - 09:34 PM

Thanks once more, Guys.

 

Some of the suggested speaker models are a bit of a rarity (in UK/Europe?) although there's a spattering listed here & there, I may have to make a small compromise or source a best equivalent .  Interestingly, speaker sensitivity does not feature as much as I would have thought in some supplier outlets or re-seller info. but I have come across it on the odd occasion.  When I've got as far as my short list I can check out individual speaker specs, at that time.

 

 

So far:

Bookshelf style, around 11-12" tall is a likely size.
4 ohms min, avoid going higher if possible but no more than 6 ohms if possible..
2-way
$200 (or less?), a good brand & new may cost more.
Brands: Polk, Klipsch, Sony, Boston Acoustics, etc..
Woofer Size: 5" (+/-1") woofer is usual for the physical speaker size.
No foam surrounds on woofer.
Rear facing bass ports.
Sensitivity rating: At least 90



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Posted 06 June 2016 - 09:40 PM

Ebay or Amazon all the way.



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Posted 06 June 2016 - 10:41 PM

Thanks once more, Guys.

Some of the suggested speaker models are a bit of a rarity (in UK/Europe?) although there's a spattering listed here & there, I may have to make a small compromise or source a best equivalent . Interestingly, speaker sensitivity does not feature as much as I would have thought in some supplier outlets or re-seller info. but I have come across it on the odd occasion. When I've got as far as my short list I can check out individual speaker specs, at that time.


So far:
Bookshelf style, around 11-12" tall is a likely size.
4 ohms min, avoid going higher if possible but no more than 6 ohms if possible..
2-way
$200 (or less?), a good brand & new may cost more.
Brands: Polk, Klipsch, Sony, Boston Acoustics, etc..
Woofer Size: 5" (+/-1") woofer is usual for the physical speaker size.
No foam surrounds on woofer.
Rear facing bass ports.
Sensitivity rating: At least 90

High sensitivity is the key, not the ohms rating. All of the above brands mentioned (except for Sony) only produce 8 ohm bookshelf speakers - you will find most also boast sensitivity ratings below 90dB. 8 ohm resistance is the standard for HiFi speakers. Most amps won't run 4 ohm speakers without increasing the risk of damage. Some of the high end models with their huge power supplies and heatsinks will run 4 ohm speakers no problem, however, your Pioneer amp isn't one of them.

But you ask, why does it have a switch on the back for 4 ohm speakers if it can't run them safely? Well the answer is that by switching your amp into 4 ohm mode, you are actually hobbling the amps' output power to reduce excessive strain on the amp when you connect low resistance speakers.

So 8 ohm, high sensitivity speakers are the way to go.

Happy speaker hunting.

James.... :-)

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Posted 07 June 2016 - 01:52 AM

There's a switch?  I don't see a switch.  It just says that if you're using A + B speakers, they should be 8 ohms or more, but if you're only using 2 speakers, you can use 4 ohms or more.



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Posted 07 June 2016 - 02:26 AM

Thanks once more, Guys.

 

Some of the suggested speaker models are a bit of a rarity (in UK/Europe?) although there's a spattering listed here & there, I may have to make a small compromise or source a best equivalent . 

 

 

You're right, Klipsch doesn't sell much of anything in the UK

 

Oh well, just search for "best bookshelf speakers" and read UK audio sites, there's tons of good brands.



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Posted 07 June 2016 - 03:42 AM

High sensitivity is the key, not the ohms rating. All of the above brands mentioned (except for Sony) only produce 8 ohm bookshelf speakers - you will find most also boast sensitivity ratings below 90dB. 8 ohm resistance is the standard for HiFi speakers. Most amps won't run 4 ohm speakers without increasing the risk of damage. Some of the high end models with their huge power supplies and heatsinks will run 4 ohm speakers no problem, however, your Pioneer amp isn't one of them.
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But you ask, why does it have a switch on the back for 4 ohm speakers if it can't run them safely? Well the answer is that by switching your amp into 4 ohm mode, you are actually hobbling the amps' output power to reduce excessive strain on the amp when you connect low resistance speakers.

So 8 ohm, high sensitivity speakers are the way to go.

Happy speaker hunting.

James.... :-)

 

 

There's a switch?  I don't see a switch.  It just says that if you're using A + B speakers, they should be 8 ohms or more, but if you're only using 2 speakers, you can use 4 ohms or more.

Thanks, Chaps - I think I'm still in pre head spinning mode although I think I can see some testing times ahead judging by the depth of info (for ME :yes: ) that come to light. 

 

Here's a pic of the Amp's Speaker Selection switch which probably fits in with what you're both saying and thanks for the explanations, I understood these. :yes:

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I've tried to sort the 'So Far' list into an order of importance so I've given the Sensitivity rating the highest priority.  A Sensitivity rating is a new thing to me, I'd never heard of such a thing,  Nope.  No Siree, not me. :no:  I feel I there's little else to add to the comments so far as all this info you Guys have imparted will be the best help I can hope for.   Thanks Guys! :thumbsup:

 

 

 

So, now this is my guide:

Sensitivity rating: At least 90
4/6/8 ohms, lowest possible best, Sensitivity (90 min) availability may influence ohms option?

Brands: Polk, Klipsch, Sony, Boston Acoustics, etc..(established brands)

No foam surrounds on woofer.

Bookshelf style, around 11-12" tall is a likely size.

Woofer Size: 5" (+/-1") woofer is usual for the physical speaker size.

Rear facing bass ports for increased Bass effect.

2-Way

$200 (or less?), a good brand & new may cost more.



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Posted 07 June 2016 - 03:54 AM

No problem and good luck on your hunt!

 

Please post a pic. of your system with the speakers.

 

One thing on the bass port and I do agree that if they were facing from the rear you'll get more deep bass, but these Polk that I own sound good and I listen to Soulful House music and I'm happy.



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Posted 07 June 2016 - 04:19 AM

Thanks, ford93.  If you noticed my little priority list, I'd relegated the rear ports somewhat as I have to consider the close proximity of my neighbours whenever I think about improving the Bass,  Having said this, I could always go for 2 sets of speakers: one with ports at the rear and one pair with front ports connected to 'A' & 'B' terminals respectively.  As soon as my neighbours are out the door then that'll be it - time for more Volume & Bass at the turn of a switch! :-D  



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Posted 07 June 2016 - 04:21 AM

This should help you.

 

Check it:

 

http://www.consumert...shelf-speakers/

 

The Definitive's looks to be good speakers.



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Posted 07 June 2016 - 05:20 AM

Thanks for the link, ford93.  Those 'Top 10' type list sure do make life easy sometimes.  I just need to satisfy myself that the chosen speakers are suitable for the system - hence starting this thread, trying to remember as much as the advice as I possibly can, eventually leading to your latest reply. 

 

The link also threw in info and descriptions on the areas of: Frequency Response/Range, Impedance, Hertz, Watts, Decibels & Voltage Sensitivity along with some other phrases unfamiliar to me which is all relevant and very interesting but starts to get a bit too much for me, I'm in danger from information overflow.  Memory problems from PTSD :bang:are really starting to hinder me now with this much information so I need to work with what I've got so far otherwise I'll be at risk of being caught in a complete circle-jerk.

 

I appreciate all the help that got me to my shortlist of specifications to look for and ford93's interesting 'Top 10' but I'm going to leave it at that.

 

As a short term measure I'm using a pair of speakers from an inexpensive Philips 3-in-1 stereo unit that are 3-Way/6 Ohms and that's all I can tell you about them.  At the risk of sounding even more ignorant of all things technical, I don't know if these speakers suit/match the Amplifier or not, all I know if the sound comes out of the speakers! :yes:  :-D  :lol:

 

Thanks, everyone, I let you know how I get on in due course, maybe even throwing my choice(s) at you for comment. :yes:  :-D



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Posted 07 June 2016 - 07:40 AM

I'm pretty sure with all the other advice from other members including mine should help you. I think you have almost gotten the complete knowledge on speakers.

 

I know the feeling of being overloaded with information, especially in the world of electronics.

 

So again good hunting that's the fun part!



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Posted 07 June 2016 - 01:19 PM

"I live in a semi-detached bungalow with the neighbour's (partially deaf  :-D ) living room adjacent to mine although I do have the opportunity for blasting out on occasion if I need."

 

This sentence has made my day.

 

Naturally, being American, I tend to have Hyacinth's voice from Keeping Up Appearances in my head while reading your posts, and to read something like "I do have the opportunity for blasting out on occasion if I need" in Hyacinth's voice is just brilliant. I mean, I just love the fact that this site/community has people from all over and all types of backgrounds. 

 

Now onto your topic, this was actually something I was thinking about myself after I got a cool JVC tape deck. Originally, I had been using my Panasonic boombox as the output for my record player, looked cool and saved some space (somewhat). I had it on a kitchen counter in the corner, the bass output was pretty good with the above cabinets and corner. Upon getting said tape deck, and an entrance table with the intention of moving the record player out of the kitchen. I wanted to get some speakers, but like yourself, wasn't sure what to get. As a temporary solution, I ended up using the boombox as the output for both the tape deck and record player. The Panasonic's tape player has issues unfortunately, hence the reason for purchase of the JVC to begin with.

 

Naturally, the bass output of the Panasonic suffered immensely when moved out of it's little corner. The solution? I used the "Output" of the boombox to an older smaller Yamaha sub-woofer that purchased second hand a few years ago fairly cheap. I'm not sure how the "Output" connections work on other boxes, but this Panasonic gives a fixed output, the volume knob has no effect on whatever the output source is, while still retaining the output and controls to it's own speakers. And luckily, this Yamaha woofer let's me fine tune it volume and cutoff to whatever I'd like, so it works out perfectly.

 

So, I have the record player, connected to the JVC tape deck, which is connected to the boombox, which is connected to a sub-woofer. How does it sound? Not bad actually, in fact I love it, and it's a pretty unique setup that most people probably wouldn't expect. Maybe not the ideal setup, but I figured I'd give the idea or maybe at least a temporary solution. 



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Posted 07 June 2016 - 03:20 PM

Thanks for making me smile this evening, Ambience!  I love Hyacinth in 'Keeping Up Appearances', it's my kind of gentle comedy. I live in a setting of 22 bungalows whereby old folk are put out to grass until they curl their toes.  Believe it not, I'm well over 60 and the youngest kid on the block and it's not really worth getting to know too many people as they seem to disappear too often, never to be seen again! :w00t:   :yes:  :-D  :lol:   

 

Anyway.....................

 

That's an interesting story and work-around with the BB & Yamaha, well done. :thumbsup:  When I bought this Hi-Fi I wasn't really expecting much as the advertisement was pretty poor and all I wanted was a semi decent Turntable for my Sharp GF-9000.  Once I'd brought the Tuner/Amp & Cassette Deck home it was only then I realised what I'd actually got my hands on.  £108 was the total outlay, not too bad a price for all three units. :yes:



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Posted 09 June 2016 - 12:39 PM

Hey Christine, hope not too late chiming in here.  

 

Not discounting any of the previous posts here, as I have a set of similar Polks and Infinity Primus series speakers which I love, but I am also in the camp with Jimmy as far as considering older speakers as there are plenty out there that are standing the test of time, especially since you live in loud speaker Nirvana :thumbsup: . Sooo many great British speakers (and their bastard cousins, lol of which I have had/heard a lot of ) to choose from and the fact that most Brits tend to want things in good to perfect nick with their gear (an observation over 20 years and a comment from an older gent form London I used to deal with), so good deals can be had for sure, as you stated that that was not necessarily an issue to you. That and there are parts more or less always available if need be as there are tons still out there.

 

 Case in point, this set of Celestions: http://www.orangedov...-15xr-n322.html   These Celestions match up very well with Pioneer receivers of that era and the overall sound stage presented is much larger than the smallish bookshelves of today, though those Polks and Ininitys have a brighter more dynamic mid-high end presentation. They also go down to 30hz with the passive radiator, so not really a need for a second set in a 200 sq ft or so room. The other mentioned here get to about 50-55hz,  and for that price a no brainer.

 

 This set of Castle is only about an hour and a half drive from you and you could maybe sell off the stands,lol: Ebay item 142018600473

 

 These smaller Pioneer receivers, and I have had many over the years including the SX-450, are prone to blowing speaker outputs so keeping higher impedance speakers in the equation, and shying away from 4 or lower if you are going to crank it occasionally, would be prudent.

 

 Most people do not realize that 3-5 watts continuous output into efficient speakers is generally reasonable adult party level (not the blaster types tho :rock: ) where you are having to raise your voice in conversations and can also annoy neighbors depending on building you are in. Dinner/background music would be much less that that in most cases so your unit will/should provide adequate power for your needs

 

 Some other names to consider would be KEF (basically anything with the B200 woofer/T27 tweeter compliment) , Celef and  Tangent, which do use some of the same drivers along with Audax drivers from France, another great sounding compliment of parts. Mission, Castle and some lower end Tannoys like the Mercury may fit the bill also. IMF and Dalesford also come to mind along with Wharfedale, though they tend not to have the best bass output for the most part in their vintage bookshelf units but very detailed mids-highs.

 

 As I mentioned previously in the 'bastard cousins' comment , many of the British made units share many common drivers and parts that have stood the test of time though most could use a crossover upgrade for optimum performance and replacing caps in speakers is something you have definitely the capability of handing. Cabinet designs will look very similar also, but they are generally very heavy well constructed units.

 

 All that, and there are plenty out in your market .

 

 Short list, lol

 Celestion :  Ditton 15 XR, Ditton 22, and DL6 which are newer but one of the best of their day

 KEF : Cresta, Corelli and soo many others, check out KEF Museum.

 Tangent : TM1 ,  SPL 3 & 5

 Wharfedale : E30, Delta 50 or 30. 

 

 Newer gear:

 Paradigm (got to get the Canuck input in, lol) 3se or 5se

 Infinty Primus series for sure in newer stuff and Polk Monitor 5 for examples.

 

 

 Anyhoo,  just some more fodder to mess ya up on your search  :lol: and I wish you luck and great listening in the future!

 

 Cheers, 

 

 Alan



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Posted 09 June 2016 - 05:59 PM

Many thanks for the thoughtful and considerate reply, my gratitude knows no bounds, duckman :w00t: (reply sent to your most welcome PM).   Seriously, I was very naïve in my thinking when made my initial post, I never thought the realms of speakerology were so involved and complicated but I'm definitely making good progress with all the info you guys have given.

 

After spending many hours over the last few days looking for and at speakers, I've concluded that I haven't been living in an Age Of Enlightenment with regard to speakers or that I needed an 'ology' just to choose a pair of speakers.  There is a far greater range of speakers types & specifications than I ever imagined and that there seems to be more brands than people on the planet. :yes:

 

My search continues but is drawing to a conclusion as I'm armed with more details than ever so, again, many thanks Guys.  :thumbsup:





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