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Transistorized

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When Superduper created his -Post your "no love" boxes here- post, I got out my beloved GE. I blew the dust off of it for the photo in that post and then decided to give it some love. I put a cassette in it and hopped in bed. Then fell promptly asleep to it playing an old cassette recording of Casey Kasem's top 40 recorded in 1988. It played beautiful and finished the cassette long after I had retired. It doesn't have auto off function, so it sat there with its dial illuminated until I got up around 4AM and turned it off.

Well, I got up later that morning around 7AM anticipating a great day off on a Saturday. I pressed the power button, flipped the cassette around to the other side, and pressed play. It got revenge for me neglecting it for months and decided to thank me by eating the tape right after the leader. Excellent! I heard what was going on and stopped it before it had a full course meal but I was certainly concerned. It's never eaten a tape...EVER!

I didn't have time to deal with it that morning because my wife and I had somewhere to be, so I turned it off and waited until a day where I could deal with it. Today!

I've had this happen before with other cassette decks and I can tell you from experience, when you have a deck that likes to chew a tape right after the plastic leader ends, 9 times out of 10 its a worn out/bad rubber pinch roller. They can even look perfect and supple with lots of grip and still do this. The first thing I did was shine a flashlight down into the cassette deck at the pinch roller and there was no question about it. It was as shiny as a polished piece of plastic and about as hard as one also.

This is not one of those radios that you can remove the cassette door and get to the pinch roller for replacement. Oh no...The entire deck has to come out and the keys have to come off to get to it.

Well tonight was the night I felt like dealing with it. I keep replacement pinch rollers in various sizes just for an occasion like this. The only thing was, the shaft of the pinch roller was 2.5mm and my replacement pinch rollers are all 2mm center hole. I ran into this exact thing with my Panasonic RX-5050. With it, I cut the old tire off and put the new pinch roller on the old plastic center roller. It worked great, so there's no reason why this shouldn't be the same.

Well I am happy to report that the surgery went well. Everything went as planned and after it was all back together, it played like it did out of the box. There were no surprises and most importantly...no more eating tapes.

So, if anyone wants to see the inside of this fairly rare bird...here it is.
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Removed the pinch roller

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Check out this hard a$$ pinch roller. Good old father time ;-)

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New one versus old

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All back together. No screws left over :-)

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Final Test

 

floyd

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When Superduper created his -Post your "no love" boxes here- post, I got out my beloved GE. I blew the dust off of it for the photo in that post and then decided to give it some love. I put a cassette in it and hopped in bed. Then fell promptly asleep to it playing an old cassette recording of Casey Kasem's top 40 recorded in 1988. It played beautiful and finished the cassette long after I had retired. It doesn't have auto off function, so it sat there with its dial illuminated until I got up around 4AM and turned it off.

Well, I got up later that morning around 7AM anticipating a great day off on a Saturday. I pressed the power button, flipped the cassette around to the other side, and pressed play. It got revenge for me neglecting it for months and decided to thank me by eating the tape right after the leader. Excellent! I heard what was going on and stopped it before it had a full course meal but I was certainly concerned. It's never eaten a tape...EVER!

I didn't have time to deal with it that morning because my wife and I had somewhere to be, so I turned it off and waited until a day where I could deal with it. Today!

I've had this happen before with other cassette decks and I can tell you from experience, when you have a deck that likes to chew a tape right after the plastic leader ends, 9 times out of 10 its a worn out/bad rubber pinch roller. They can even look perfect and supple with lots of grip and still do this. The first thing I did was shine a flashlight down into the cassette deck at the pinch roller and there was no question about it. It was as shiny as a polished piece of plastic and about as hard as one also.

This is not one of those radios that you can remove the cassette door and get to the pinch roller for replacement. Oh no...The entire deck has to come out and the keys have to come off to get to it.

Well tonight was the night I felt like dealing with it. I keep replacement pinch rollers in various sizes just for an occasion like this. The only thing was, the shaft of the pinch roller was 2.5mm and my replacement pinch rollers are all 2mm center hole. I ran into this exact thing with my Panasonic RX-5050. With it, I cut the old tire off and put the new pinch roller on the old plastic center roller. It worked great, so there's no reason why this shouldn't be the same.

Well I am happy to report that the surgery went well. Everything went as planned and after it was all back together, it played like it did out of the box. There were no surprises and most importantly...no more eating tapes.

So, if anyone wants to see the inside of this fairly rare bird...here it is.
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Removed the pinch roller

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Check out this hard a$$ pinch roller. Good old father time ;-)

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New one versus old

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All back together. No screws left over :-)

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Final Test

Good work getting your working again I always thought this was a great looking Boombox really nice unit nice quality too what's not to love I'd love to have one.
 

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i would much rather her than an m70 Ryan no kidding lad she looks great and a nice happy ending to boot :clap::beer2:

Good work getting your working again I always thought this was a great looking Boombox really nice unit nice quality too what's not to love I'd love to have one.

Thank you both. It's nice to relax and enjoy it this evening 8-)

When I cracked the case, the smell of chlorinated circuit boards filled the room. Not sure what the manufacturing process of these boards are, but they are still outgassing 40 years later..lol. I actually like the smell albeit known the the state of California to cause cancer :yes:
 
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Thank you both. It's nice to relax and enjoy it this evening 8-)

When I cracked the case, the smell of chlorinated circuit boards filled the room. Not sure what the manufacturing process of these boards are, but they are still outgassing 40 years later..lol. I actually like the smell albeit known the the state of California to cause cancer :yes:
Well I'm sitting here listening to my boombox drinking what's left of a bottle of Crown Royal I got for Christmas you got to enjoy them while you can and when you can I'm tired of the TV and it's f****** b******* So lately I started listening to the radio a lot more. Rock on !.
 
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Well I'm sitting here listening to my boombox drinking what's left of a bottle of Crown Royal I got for Christmas you got to enjoy them while you can and when you can I'm tired of the TV and it's f****** b******* So lately I started listening to the radio a lot more. Rock on !.
same here all been on i hardly ever watch tv guys///////////my tv is just a monitor
 

Transistorized

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Well I'm sitting here listening to my boombox drinking what's left of a bottle of Crown Royal I got for Christmas you got to enjoy them while you can and when you can I'm tired of the TV and it's f****** b******* So lately I started listening to the radio a lot more. Rock on !.
Well, you and me both Floyd. I'm polishing off another bottle of Absolute this evening while listening to my radio. Cheers Brother!! :beer2:
 

Radio raheem

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i was watching the horror channel for a while but now i have seen them all................there is just nothing on tv that interests me,,,,,,,music was my first love john miles
 
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BoomboxLover48

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Excellent job! Over the years I've done many pinch roller surgeries. The 2mm hole is somewhat common and you can get them but the 2.5mm hole was the hardest to find. 11mm diameter was also not common where I can use one for this need.

The OEM 11mm X 7 mm X 2.52mm (hole diameter) with brass bearing was the hardest one to find. A few years ago, one guy was selling those $75 per piece. I also knew a guy who will use the original brass bearing and put new rubber on it. He was asking a high price for it.
I finally ended up making 4 of those for my decks which had double capstan. It was not at all easy.
 

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Excellent job! Over the years I've done many pinch roller surgeries. The 2mm hole is somewhat common and you can get them but the 2.5mm hole was the hardest to find. 11mm diameter was also not common where I can use one for this need.

The OEM 11mm X 7 mm X 2.52mm (hole diameter) with brass bearing was the hardest one to find. A few years ago, one guy was selling those $75 per piece. I also knew a guy who will use the original brass bearing and put new rubber on it. He was asking a high price for it.
I finally ended up making 4 of those for my decks which had double capstan. It was not at all easy.
Thank you. It's such a rewarding process when things work out. That Akai is a nice looking machine :yes: .

I do all of of my recordings on my Sony TC-K850ES machine. It's a closed looped dual capstan drive 3-head machine. I had to have the pinch rollers replaced on it because it wanted to eat tapes at the beginning after the plastic leader ended. I ended up having it professionally aligned after belt and pinch roller overhaul because there are so many adjustments for tracking that I don't have the proper equipment for. It also has torque settings for take-up spindle, drag settings etc.. All kinds of adjustments. I am sure I could have gotten it "redneck" close, but I really wanted it right on the money for when I used Dolby on my recordings. And it gets used for all of my boombox recordings, so having it perfect means I can use test tapes recorded on it to calibrate my boomboxes.

I just checked the GE pinch roller now that I have run through about 10 90 minute tapes through it. The good news is that it appears to be tracking very well. Right in the center.
 
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