what is the most common component failure !!

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saxonman

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I've repaired a fair few boombox's in my time and the most common component failure is the Electrolytic Capacitor !! and maybe second the main amp! Just wondering if it's the same for everyone!! And is it me but are all sanyo's a pain to work on (i'm trying to find a short on my 9996) ahhhhh
 

Reli

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I have a few that take a long time to power up & power down, so I'm guessing one of the bigger capacitators is leaking, or dried up? They smell bad too :lol:
 

tshorba

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saxonman said:
I've repaired a fair few boombox's in my time and the most common component failure is the Electrolytic Capacitor !!

If you count belts as a component of the box (not just the electrical components) my vote goes to belts ;-)

Solenoid's on logic decks are also quite prone to failure.
 

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I've had some problems with pots and sliders, but I'm not sure how their failure rate compares with other things like caps. Sanyo is really bad for volume pots on the M9935.
 

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MasterBlaster84 said:
saxonman said:
I asumed belts were a given lol

:agree: Just about all 30 year old belts are shot or very close to it but even if many caps aren't in good shape they still work well enough to use.

Any part that degrades enough to require service is considered a failure, even if what it requires is as simple cleaning because 30 years ago, nobody would take their boombox apart and spray deoxit so it would go to the service center.

(1) Failures rates are typically highest in mechanical parts such as belts, switches, and pots, pcb traces and connections. Trimpots are especially prone to total failure (burnout from being undersized?)
(2) I've had lots of capacitors go bad to where one channel was dead. Don: It's true that when they degrade, performance suffers but still works. But total failure (shorted to ground, open) is not uncommon at all.
(3) Amplifier output modules
(4) power resistors
(5) top side traces on early boards, did not use foil traces. Instead, the traces were painted with a conductive material that degrades over time and fail. This is very common and whenever I see a dual sided board with top traces painted on -- I immediately suspect those traces, especially if one channel is dead for no good reason. The TRK-8080 and RX-7000 and S90 are examples (models) that use these types of boards.
(6) pcb "painted-on" resistors and other components.
(7) zener diodes
(8) degraded or failed transistors.

I've found signal resistors to be fairly reliable and given how many are used per device, they rarely fail if sized correctly to begin with so they are not usually my first suspect to interrogate.
 

rumble_under

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aside from my brain i would say belts. i had pulled apart three boxes in the last 24 hours and they all were brought back to life with a new belt.
that is in my limited experience anyway! :cool:
 

monchito

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saxonman said:
SUPERDUPER do resistors degrade??? or do they just fail??
lose there resistance yes,,even thou most of the time there might be a large component failure behind it :-)
 

Superduper

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saxonman said:
SUPERDUPER do resistors degrade??? or do they just fail??

Yes, they certainly can change value over time. Most failures I've seen are in the power resistors. However I have seen examples where signal resistors have changed value or failed entirely. Not nearly as frequently as other components but they do fail too.
 

saxonman

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why i say that is i'm gonna change every componant in my toshiba 8360 i have done the caps next will be resistors
 

shane higgins

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saxonman said:
why i say that is i'm gonna change every componant in my toshiba 8360 i have done the caps next will be resistors
let us know the out come
i was wondering how much it would inprove the boxes sound
 
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