Testing the New AI7012 Retro Styled Boombox

Reli

Boomus Fidelis
So many pros and cons with each one.

Manhattan:
Good warm sound, made possible by wood enclosures
But the 4" speakers look tiny behind those big grills
The handle falls with a bang
No tuner
Spectrum analyzer is fake, it doesn't match the music frequencies.
Doesn't display track info. Such a waste of a big display.
Ridiculously loud female voice that announces every time you change functions or skip tracks (And there's no way to turn it off)
Adjustable echo and other mic effects.

Brooklyn:
Bigger speakers
Tiny battery, it's a joke, and it has a habit of draining
CD player rattles
VU meter has a delay factor, and bleeds light into the surrounding area
Has a tuner, but the knob has lots of friction, and it isn't very easy to get a lock
Handle falls with a bang
Knobs are digital with a strong delay factor, you can't turn them quickly.
Cannot skip back to the beginning of the song, it skips to the previous song instead

Aiwa
No rechargeable battery
Speakers small, but bigger than the Manhattan at least
Does the handle fall with a bang?
CD player is better quality than the Brooklyn's, doesn't rattle
Tuner knob feels better than the Brooklyn's
Analog VU meters instead of delayed LED garbage
 
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BoomBoxStash

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I have been learning how to use REW. I finally have some of it down. In the process, i realized some of my patch cords are crap! I sorted out the bad. I then re-tested my stereo, for practice. Finally, I re-opened my Aiwa AI7012, one more time. I ran a slew of tests: listed as follows, for anyone who'd like to know.

Note: I returned my first unit. I wanted to see if another unit would play tapes any better. In so doing, I ran across something unusual. My first Aiwa boombox came up as AI7012 when searching bluetooth. This new Aiwa unit comes up as LT-BT600RUC, which is a Leotec brand. I am aware Leotec markets this unit in other countries, under different brand names. But I am surprised this came up as-is.

Amp Section: Chip: CD7379CZ (seems to be a copy of the TDA7379)
I measured the amp's Power Bandwidth to be 70 Hz to 20 Khz within +/-1 dB. This is a strict high-fidelity rating parameter.

All following amp stats are: (2-channels driven into 4 ohms)
10.4 W + 10.4 W, 1 Khz, 10.8% THD.
10.4 W + 10.4 W, 70 Hz to 20 Khz, <12% THD.
10.4 W + 10.4 W, 20 Hz to 20 Khz, <14% THD.
While Aiwa states a peak power output claim of 40 watts, some of its European sister models claim a much more realistic 10 WRMS x 2. I imagine this refers to 10W per channel at 10% THD.

I believe the following should be considered this unit's actual rating: (refer to the first graph, below)
8 W + 8 W, 70 Hz to 20 Khz, <0.45% THD (<0.5% THD+N)
The top curve is the power bandwidth. It is quite flat above 100 Hz to 20 Khz. Below 100 Hz it begins a gentle roll-off, dropping off more sharply below 40 Hz. The amp's response is within +/-3 dB from 45 Hz to 20 Khz, which is pretty good.
The middle white line is the THD level. It too is pretty flat across the board, at this output.
The bottom curve is the noise floor level.

The amp chip's data sheet claims this chip can push 12+ watts into 4 ohms with a 12 volt power supply. I could not duplicate.
The data sheet also states THD as low as 0.02% THD with typical levels of 0.3%. I could not duplicate those very low THD stats.

I measured at very low output to see if specs improved:
0.6 W + 0.6 W, 70 Hz to 20 Khz, <0.2% THD (<0.3% THD+N)
I saw some dipping slightly below 0.1% THD in the mid-freq range, but nothing below about 0.08% THD)

Amp S/N Ratio:
My Yamaha receiver, RX-V377, claims a S/N of >110 dB from 22 Hz to 22 Khz. I measured 116 dB, so I believe my results somewhat accurate.
Aiwa S/N: >121 dB, from 22 Hz to 22 Khz.

Crosstalk:
My receiver claims 70 dB/50 dB @ 1 Khz/10 Khz, respectively. This is considered the standard of a high fidelity amp.
I only measured 48 dB/38 dB. The only spec where the Yamaha falls short of claimed.
Aiwa Crosstalk: 58 dB/40 dB.

Frequency Response: (Aux-in to front, Aux-shorted, 22 Hz to 22 Khz)
My receiver claims 10 Hz to 100 Khz, -3 dB. I can only measure accurately to 20 Khz. I measured 10 Hz to 20 Khz, -1.5 dB. So I believe this measurement is fairly accurate.
Aiwa Freq Resp: (Aux-in to front): 75 Hz to 20 Khz, +2 dB/-3 dB (20 Hz to 20 Khz, +2 dB/-11 dB)

Damping Factor: (Measured at 50 Hz, the standard for bass/subwoofer measurements)
My receiver claims >120, from 22 Hz to 22 Khz. I measured >121 @ 50 Hz. So, I think my measurement is fairly accurate.
Aiwa DF: 139
Note: 100 to 150 is considered excellent. Above 150 is generally considered to add negligible improvement.

Tone Controls:
I measured my receiver's tone controls. Yamaha claims up to +/-6 dB @ 50 Hz & 20 Khz. I measured exactly +6 dB for both.
Yamaha also claims turnover frequencies of 350 Hz for bass and 3.5 Khz for treble. I measured 1 Khz for both.
Aiwa: +/-12 dB @ 100 Hz, turnover at 1 Khz.
+/-12 dB @ 10 Khz, turnover at 1 Khz

CD Player Section:
I compared the Aiwa CD player to my old LG BP-540 Bluray DVD/CD player (about 10 yrs old). The LG measured 22 Hz to 20 Khz +/-2 dB
Aiwa FR: 22 Hz to 20 Khz, -6 dB (in deep bass end, see screenshot #2)

Cassette Deck Section: I used a new Maxell UR 90. I recorded a 20 Hz to 20 Khz sine sweep from the Aiwa's CD player onto the tape and then played back the tape.
Aiwa Cassette Deck FR: Approx 90 Hz to 8 Khz, +/- 3 dB (0verall FR: 60 Hz to 11 Khz, -10 dB) (Refer to screenshot #3)

Note: It is possible the Maxell tape is no longer a premium product. I don't know if Maxell is even around, or if this tape is just another brand name taken over by some foreign interest. So, the tape might skew the results.

However, I have owned many good quality tape decks and boomboxes back in the day. None of them sounded like this.
The background noise is extremely high.
Fidelity is not good.
Recording seems very low. I never liked ALC (automatic volume control) for tape deck recording. But, this is really piss poor.

I am looking for a pre-recorded test tape, with perhaps some sine wave sweeps and so forth. Just to see if this deck will do better for playing back only. But, I have not found anything useful thus far.

Speakers:
The speakers are of nice quality. The woofers perform like genuine woofers. They have a measured free-air resonance of 62 Hz, which is quite good for this size bass driver. Furthermore, this woofer seems to roll-off beyond about 2.5 Khz, making it an easy woofer to blend-in with a tweeter.

The tweeter is a fabric (textile) soft dome, 0.75 inch diameter. It performs very well. Treble is smooth and clean. This tweeter does not exhibit sibilance. It is crossed over at about 8 Khz and probably reaches down enough to blend with the woofer.

The final two screen shots are of a basic measurement at 1 meter, on-axis with the tweeter, near a corner of the room.
Screen shot #4 is of my large floor speaker with 15-inch woofer.
Screen shot #5 is of the Aiwa in the same position.
The final 6th picture is of my main audio system and the Aiwa boombox, for comparison.

Final thoughts:
I like this boombox overall. The deck is disappointing. But, I did not have high hopes to begin with. I have researched several new component tape decks on the market. You need to spend a lot for a possible decent performing tape deck that comes anywhere near the decks of the past.

The CD Player performs admirably well. Response is close to my LG DVD player. Sounds very good. You could use the headphone jack to connect the boombox to a separate amp and play CDs with some confidence of high-fidelity.

The Aiwa has a decent amp. Not screaming loud. But well balanced and pretty clean for what it is. In my opinion, the Aiwa's amp measures up well to the classic collectible one-piece boomboxes of the 80's.

The Aiwa speakers are definitely better than most of the speakers found in the 80's boomboxes. The bass-reflex cabinets are well tuned. Bass reaches down into the 40-50 Hz range and can hit some pretty low notes. Speakers sound clean. Much less hollowness and coloration as compared to other comparatively priced retro styled boomboxes currently on the market.

This is a retro-thing. I like it because it reminds me of days long gone by. For me, high-fidelity audio was king back in the 80's, before the advent of personal computers, surround sound and miniaturization and music compression. I have very fond memories of all the audio that was available to purchase, or just to sample, for fun. Young people nowadays are missing out on being able to shop literally dozens and dozens of stores, just for audio equipment. To be able to touch, feel, and audition so many big brand high quality components was a joy and a privilege. This Aiwa boombox brings back a little of those feelings and memories.
 

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goodman

Member (SA)
BoomBoxStash write:
"My first Aiwa boombox came up as AI7012 when searching bluetooth.
This new Aiwa unit comes up as LT-BT600RUC, which is a Leotec brand.
I am aware Leotec markets this unit in other countries, under different brand names.
But I am surprised this came up as-is. "

As far as I remember, on my version, in BT mode on the phone says: "MUSE M380".
You obviously have a different version of the software loaded.
This model LT-BT600RUC has rechargeable battery + remote control:


I read your comments about the cassette deck.
I agree that with this mechanism the quality is average.
It is true that the old cassette mechanisms are of better quality
and the cassettes sound better on them.
There are many factors on which the sound of the cassettes depends:
Type of tape, Recording source, Recording device, Recording settings,
Playback device and others.
I have many different cassettes with compilations and albums.
They were recorded on different devices with different settings.
That is why some of them sound good on some boomboxes
and others worse and vice versa...
For this reason I cannot say which boombox is the best and which is the worst.
 

BoomBoxStash

Member (SA)
I forgot to add some data I collected. I will add an addendum, here.

First 2 screen shots are of me taking this boombox apart. Just so there is no doubt I did test it. You might notice I added a few thin sheets of green foam pads to the sides of the speaker enclosures. These foam pads are closed-cell type, roughly 2-3mm thick. The purpose is to muffle any resonances which might otherwise escape through the rear port and color the sound. I'm not sure it they made a difference, but, I think the speakers sound smoother. The difference, if any, is subtle.

Doing these tests causes a lot of mess lol. I have to do them when no one is home to avoid distractions and accidently damaging the unit.

Screenshot #3 is of my LG Bluray DVD player response. I used this as a reference. Even at 10 yrs old, this DVD player still functions fine.
Using RTA and an old Sheffield Labs Test CD, this test is limited from about 22 Hz to about 18.5 Khz @ 1/6 octave:
The LG Player Freq-Resp is about 22 Hz to 18.5 Khz within +3/-2 dB. THD is 0.41%.

I then measured the Aiwa CD Player. Freq-Resp is about 25 Hz to 17.5 Khz @ -3 dB. THD is the same, 0.41%.
Note: on a previous measurement, I did get 18.5 Khz on the Aiwa player. I accidently deleted that file.
The Aiwa performs very similar to the LG, except a drop in output below 25 Hz, which I doubt anyone will notice.

Using the same test CD, I measured S/N Ratio at 1 Khz. I compared the output with a silent track (Digital Black) with a 1 Khz track recorded at max level (0 dBVU).
The LG measured >94 dB
The Aiwa measured >78 dB.
Preferably, digital disc players should hit 90 dB or more. But 78 isn't too bad. Because there is no line-out on this boombox, I had to take measurements through the headphones-jack, which may slightly skew the results.

The cassette deck is another story altogether. However, I am convinced there is some sort of miswiring causing feedback to the cassette deck which is corrupting the performance. I am trying to find a way to send an email to Leotec regarding this possible issue. Following, is my reasoning and the tape deck results, as--is.

The VU power meters are only supposed to function when playing sound thru the boombox's speakers. These VU meters should not function when headphones are being used, because power to the main speakers is cut-off.

However, when recording and playing a cassette tape, the VU meters do function. But, they are not displaying the signal being recorded or played. They are picking up some type of internal noise or feedback which is finding its way into the cassette deck circuit.

In my opinion, this pick-up of noise or feedback is causing the deck to exhibit so much noise. When i record and playback a tape made on this deck, the background noise is not simple tape hiss. It is some sort of lower freq noise which is finding its way to the tape heads and masking the actual recordings.

Consider screenshot #5. It is of the Cassette deck performance. The deck is actually recording the sine wave sweep at only about 2 dB below the level of the CD player. That is good. Freq-Resp of the deck is approx 95 Hz to 9.5 Khz, -3 dB and 75 Hz to 11 Khz, -10 dB. This is not great, but it should sound much better than it actually does.
Look at the THD+N. It is almost 100%!!!!! That is impossible. I am positive some type of noise is finding its way into the deck circuit and corrupting the performance. Maybe a bad ground? Or some type of miswiring, causing the VU meters to only respond when playing thru headphones in cassette mode?

Imo, if this noise could be filtered out or corrected, the deck might play pretty decently.

If anyone knows how to contact Leotec, post it here and I'll submit a request to look into the deck performance issue. I cannot find any legitimate contact info.

Also, to Goodman's response, I have also seen the ad for the LT-BT600RUC with remote and rechargeable battery. Idk if that is legit. I looked up this model number and nothing special came up. In fact, I came up with one posting stating this model goes under AI7012 as well as LT-BT600RUC and several other model numbers. I have not been able to find any legit info regarding the so-called version with remote and rechargeable battery. And Aliexpress is not the most reliable site lol.

It would be nice if Aiwa or Leotec introduced a rechargeable battery as an accessory. You would think someone out there would manufacture rechargeable battery packs to replace common D-cell battery configurations. But i have found nothing other than buying individual rechargeable D-cells and a charger which can only charge up to maybe 4 D-cells at a time. Besides the cost, the effort sounds like a pain in the a$$.
 

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goodman

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Are you thinking of using the free space in the box, which is like a transformer,
and installing a battery and charging module there.
The battery can be charged by this transformer.
And when you turn off the AC, will it work with this built-in battery?

This is the official Leotec contact page:


LEOTEC LT-BT600RUC does exist, but it is only sold in China.
I know that the ALIEXPRESS website may not be the most reliable, but this is what I have so far.

I also posted a real picture of the box here: