tagged photos (seller id / date)

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reptoid

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I consider this more of a discussion piece than anything else. Not trying to create reform as much as a conversation. It also shows a compare/contrast of two different communities.

I have seen a few issues discussed over the past several months of misrepresenting items on ebay. I just wanted to share how another community has dealt with this issue.

Roughly five years ago I fell big into collecting sneakers. It was a given in the community that no one felt comfortable purchasing shoes unless the seller photographed them with a card that shows the sellers name and date. If a seller on ebay were attempting to sell sneakers it would be considered highly risky to bid on items that did not have 'tagged pics.' If posted in the buy sell area of the forums it wasn't only encouraged, but a requirement for posting. Creating the tags to put in your photos was never an annoyance, just a courtesy and you could even be creative with it.

This does several things:

1) It shows the seller was in possession of the item at listing time. (Photoshopped watermarks etc were not accepted, only actual physical cards in the photo)

2) It shows the condition of the item at listing time. (No showing two year old photos before the box rolled down the stairs and then was thrown up on ebay. The dated card should represent the condition on that date.)

3) It prevents others from stealing your photos and presenting them as their own.

4) It shows a sense of legitimacy to buyers that you are active in the community and are aware of buyers criteria.

5) It shows documented condition of the item to ebay that may help in case of a dispute.


I realize this may never work in the boombox community for several reasons.

1) It is a more tight nit community with a smaller following, there is less fear of falling victim to a scam internally within the community.

2) A lot of the boombox listings on ebay are onetime sellers who found a box in an attic or yardsale. It is much easier to stumble upon a boombox than rare sneakers in good condition. You can request these sellers post tagged photos of boxes, but may run into non-responses.

3) Unlike sneakers, cosmetic condition isn't everything in boomboxes. There is a lot going on internally that obviously doesn't exist in shoes.

4) There isn't large scale production of bootleg boomboxes. (Fortunately / Unfortunately?!?)

With all this said, I have yet to sell any boomboxes as I am still fairly new and still building my giant want list. However, when I do I will be carrying these habits with me as they are hard to break.

Here is an example I just picked up on Niketalk.com from someone's recent buy/sell post.
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blu_fuz

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reptoid said:
5) It shoes documented condition of the item to ebay that may help in case of a dispute.


Do you have "shoes" on the brain? :lol: :yes:


Just messing with you..... we also do the same thing on other forums.

The only thing I don't like as a seller is that I sell a lot of car parts and it is a pain in the butt to have that slip in every picture for a new item I want to sell...... But in the BBX community I think it is a great idea.


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reptoid

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Master Z said:
That Jordan 5 in the pic is a great shoe, do you have that pair?
That was my first pair of J's I bought for $125, I had to cut a lot of lawns for em', It was well worth it. :lol:

If you got some nice kicks post them here!
http://www.boomboxery.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=3716&hilit=fresh+pair

I had the 1999 release of these a few years back. I sold almost all of grails a couple years ago during rougher times. :-/
I also fell out of the hobby almost completely. I do have a bunch of photos saved though on an old computer at home. I will dig some up for the kicks thread you posted! :yes:
 

MasterBlaster84

Boomus Fidelis
Master Z said:
That Jordan 5 in the pic is a great shoe, do you have that pair?
That was my first pair of J's I bought for $125, I had to cut a lot of lawns for em', It was well worth it. :lol:

I sold those back in my Al Bundy days, worked for a local Sports (5 stores) shoe shop back around that time. :blush:
 

Terry

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Superduper said:
Just buy from people you know with good reputations and problem is solved.

Hacked accounts are a problem though, if a high feedback seller gets his account hacked, well ..... anything can happen.


I think it's a great idea, and will do exactly this from now on.
 

Superduper

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Hacked accounts aren't as prevalent of a problem as you would think, especially if it with high-feedback sellers. The reason is that high feedback sellers are typically very active so they would know almost immediately when something is not right. It's the ones where the account is dormant forever that creates problem.
 

reptoid

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For the topic of conversation:

From participating in the community since February I have seen tons of boomboxes for sale. I notice no rhyme or reason on postings. An eBay auction can have a low quality cellphone picture and sell for just as much as a well documented listing with tons of pics. In fact it can even sell for more due to its lack of detail!!! :sadno: I have been on eBay since 2000 researching and collecting various things. This type of behavior seems fairly unique to boomboxes. (Please don't focus too much on that comment, because I know it is prevalent all over. It just seems more so in this hobby.)

I am just wondering if we are allowing eBay sellers to get by with too little detail.

Buying from people you know is a great idea. However, what about those that take care in their items but don't deal in bulk amount of bbx's? How do these people get the respect they deserve for their auctions that can distinguish them from the people who don't care? Maybe they lurk on the forums everyday, know exactly how to pack a box and understand the issues the box may have.

I have never sold a boombox, but have sold many high fetching sneakers. Some ranging as high as $2000. It never happened by accident nor was I ever surprised at the price they pulled. I payed excellent attention to detail. I tagged dated all of my photos. I listed my affiliation and handles on the forums (which also draws attention to the forums and community.) Even posted photos of the item in its shipping container fully padded to give the buyer confidence that the item would arrive safe.

I just feel like if we started within the community discussing and practicing higher quality postings it would be noticed by the fringe sellers of what is required of a respectable listing. It may never take off, but at least give confidence to buyers which seller is aware of the community's standards and is making an honest effort.

Where we stand now is the smallest detail, least amount of photos and documentation can get the highest bid. This is a difficult hole to get out of.
 

Lasonic TRC-920

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I like this idea of setting a standard and I agree, it could take time to get it going, but in the long run would be well worth the effort.

I personally hate ebay. I hate getting out bit at the last second by an bid napper. I had a bbox show up smashed even after the shipper had it packaged at a shipping company.

I agree, these need to be packaged properly and seeing someones packaging on the eBay page WITH a tag/date card would make me feel MUCH better.

Nut in the end, I would rather just buy from someone I know or in person. The bummer with that is your limited to what you can get. :-/
 

reptoid

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Lasonic TRC-920 said:
I had a bbox show up smashed even after the shipper had it packaged at a shipping company.

i feel your pain... i got this yesterday... packed by UPS...

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reptoid

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I asked my friend to just drop off the box at UPS to avoid hassling her more than I had to. I assumed they would do a good job and at least charge a fairly honest rate. They charged her 90.84 to pack and ship, $30 in just materials. She didn't mention how much they charged her until after they shipped the box.

Here is my $30 worth of materials. (One small part of the expandable foam that doesn't seem to make sense. Some bags of peanuts and a couple oddly shaped and placed random bits of styrofoam in an extremely flimsy box.

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I bought the box as mainly a parts / project box for and was far from perfect shape. So I am not as mad as I would have been if this was a nicer box. My main issue is how much I was charged for such horrible work. The box was in working condition and it appears it suffered some trauma that has caused the function knob to not properly turn and click (similar to the TRC 931 bad switches.) Now I cannot chose a function and can hear loud static from the speakers when turning it on. I am thinking about filing a claim since this was packaged and shipped 100% by UPS.
 

MasterBlaster84

Boomus Fidelis
Professional packing my butt, too many of these people have no clue how to properly pack and they charge how much. :hmmm: :nonono:
What's bubble wrap? :huh: :dunce: Oh it's that cool plastic stuff you pop for fun. :yes: :lol:
Doesn't matter anyway you just throw some peanuts in and your good. :thumbsup: :thumbsdown: :thumbsdown: :thumbsdown:
 

reptoid

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MasterBlaster84 said:
What's bubble wrap? :huh: :dunce: Oh it's that cool plastic stuff you pop for fun. :yes: :lol:
If they used bubble wrap for shipping then they could possibly exhaust their supply! :huh: Then what would they do for fun between customers? :'-( I'm sure packing store employees have the best bubble wrap pranks! :lol: :-D :lol:
 

mellymelsr

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I collect tennis shoes as well, and watches, and the biggest difference between my other collectible hobbies and boomboxes is there are counterfeits that you have to worry about so the picture and documentation are extremely important. I have shoes that eclipse $2000 and watches that eclipse $25,000, you have to have all things in order to fetch those prices. With boomboxes you don't have to worry about fakes because they don't exist. A collector knows it is the genuine article so a clear picture is not necessary to fetch a high price, the article itself is enough. I have been lucky enough to not have been burned yet in a boombox purchase on ebay but most of my purchases have been from this site and every one has been positive. Trusting the source you purchase from is invaluable and that has made collecting a pleasure for me. So because the boombox community does not demand better documentation I don't see it changing in the near future.
 

Superduper

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reptoid said:
I am thinking about filing a claim since this was packaged and shipped 100% by UPS.
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Which is 100% why I also encourage folks to spend the extra $$ to buy quality packing materials and pack it themselves. The pack/ship stores are often rip offs. It's a self serving dilemma. Pack it well and profit goes down. Pack by skimping and profit goes through the roof. Not only do they charge for the packing materials, they also charge for the packing service and charge a surcharge over the shipping carrier's posted rates.

BTW, reptoid, going back to your original topic, tagging a photo does not, in any way, guarantee that the seller has any clue how to properly ship a boombox, even if it IS tagged to show the actual item. I still stand by my seller reputation suggestion. Know who you are buying from and their reputation (including packing) for the safest transaction. Somebody already learned the hard way. Use that info to your benefit.
 
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