Radio Tuner Dead Try This AM FM Stereo Fix

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hopey

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I have had success in recovering a completely dead Tuner on a Sharp and Now a Fisher Box.

Use a small paint brush and apply liberal amounts of isopropyl alcohol to the Tuner Board and scrub all components and switches

Place a small fan heater blowing on the board for one hour

If still not working dry for longer
 
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Eric

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Can anyone suggest a good book on tuner repair or some generic trouble shooting skills. I have not been successful trying to trouble shoot weak tuners.
 

hopey

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Can anyone suggest a good book on tuner repair or some generic trouble shooting skills. I have not been successful trying to trouble shoot weak tuners.
You can find the details to calibrate tuners in the service manual. You will of course need lots of test equipment and the knowledge and experience to use it.

If your tuner is working but with a week signal all the connections for the aerial should be remade as you can loose 3db per joint.
 

dubout

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If your tuner is working but with a week signal all the connections for the aerial should be remade as you can loose 3db per joint.
I have three of the same boomboxes where two have a weak fm reception. OPs and this info is very useful, I will try it out when I have the time and report.
 

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Can anyone suggest a good book on tuner repair or some generic trouble shooting skills. I have not been successful trying to trouble shoot weak tuners.
This is the best book I've seen for novices learning tuner repairs. A bit hard to find these days, and often pricey when you can find it but still, it's worth it. Includes theory, troubleshooting skills, recommended tools and equipment, sample (actual) circuits.radio-book_sm.jpg
 

Eric

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I have wanted to by the Green/Bourque. My same searches popped up. Prices remind me of my college bookstore many years ago. :'-(
 

Reli

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I have had success in recovering a completely dead Tuner on a Sharp and Now a Fisher Box.

Use a small paint brush and apply liberal amounts of isopropyl alcohol to the Tuner Board and scrub all components and switches

Place a small fan heater blowing on the board for one hour

If still not working dry for longer
Curious that this would improve anything. Any idea why?
 

hopey

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Curious that this would improve anything. Any idea why?
I'm thinking its probably contaminated water or soft drink that has dried in the wrong place. The alcohol dissolves it and disperses the contaminates without damaging any components.
 

hopey

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Just brought back another FM tuner back from the dead.

It took extra time Infront of the heater. It would appear the variable capacitor needed cleaning on the outside and then a good dry infront of the heater.
 

Tinman

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I usually vacuum all circuit boards with a soft brush attachment to clean the loose dust and dirt off.
Next I spray them down with CRC electronics cleaner.
It has a nice strong spray and usually will clean off what the vacuum didn't.
Also, it dries fairly quickly unless it pools inside of something enclosed like a variable capacitor with a plastic cover.

The only time I had a problem with a tuner that wasn't working was on a Clairtone 7979.
I ended up recapping it and during the process I found a tiny glob of solder shorting two legs of an ic.
Going over a board with a magnifying glass can also reveal a problem that you might normally glance over.
 

hopey

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Confirmed dry liquid in the variable capacitor appearing as transparent flakes maybe dry milk. Lucky the clear cover can be removed by bending two tabs then alcohol with a small paint brush and dry with fan heater.

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hopey

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I think I have found the issue with these tuners. The ones I have had trouble with is horizontal Tuner PCB. When some spills a drink on the box the liquid can enter the Variable capacitor and the OSC. VAR. Conductor (I think that's what its called) the red thing in bottom left of photo above.

The OSC. VAR. Conductor can corrode internally, to fix you fully unscrew the ferrite plug. Inside there are two pins one each side which can be cleaned with fine grade sand paper, clean the plug with alcohol. This has a sort of polarity and when screwed back in the signal will come and go as the plug is screwed further down. You can calibrate by setting the tuner to a known station and make it match the Freq indicator. It's a bit of trial and error but pretty easy.

I bet the reason is the high resistance on the OSC. VAR. Conductor between pins.
 

Reli

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You have a better pic of that red thing? What's the ferrite plug you mentioned?
 

BoomboxLover48

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Confirmed dry liquid in the variable capacitor appearing as transparent flakes maybe dry milk. Lucky the clear cover can be removed by bending two tabs then alcohol with a small paint brush and dry with fan heater.

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But most or our boombox gang capacitors all got a cover over it and it is only exposed in tube radios where they have air gang variable capacitor.
 

Superduper

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But most or our boombox gang capacitors all got a cover over it and it is only exposed in tube radios where they have air gang variable capacitor.
He said to REMOVE the plastic cover. Frankly I think this is all bad advice. It is nowhere near a reliable repair method and can be equally destructive as it is helpful. Most Boomboxes use cheap varicaps that have plastic fins which are easily distorted. Might I add any distortion or damage to the fins ruins that varicap and by extension, the Boombox tuner since you’re not gonna find a replacement? Also removing the slugs from those coils…. Yeah, same deal. It’s bad enough as a general advice but novices with no tuner experience can quickly ruin an otherwise repairable Boombox. Lastly I will say this… if Hopey can produce a stereo signal generator, a sweep signal generator, a frequency counter and an oscilloscope, and demonstrate proficiency in operating them, and if he has an understanding of superheterodyne principles, I’ll give him the benefit of the doubt and eat my words, but until then, I’ll stand by my position that these are just plain bad and potentially dangerous (to the Boombox) suggestions. It’s true that if there’s milk finding it’s way inside a varicap, it can certainly alter its capacitance, but the average and most common tuner failures aren’t milk in the tuner or the slugs, they are other issues. If you buy a Boombox for $20 and you don’t care if you trash it in the process of tinkering with it, go ahead. But if you care about your Boombox or it has some value… don’t do hack ****.
 
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hopey

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I just checked the radio again and is working well. You have nothing to loose if your tuner is completely dead don't knock it until you have tried it.
 

hopey

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You have a better pic of that red thing? What's the ferrite plug you mentioned?
The box is back together, it's easy to find it's near the Variable Cap. You use a small flat screw driver to unscrew the plug. I couldn't find any photos of it online also newer tuners don't use these any more so it's definitely a weak point.
 
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