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MONOLITHIC

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Conion C-100F's were supposedly "made in Japan", right? How come you can find 'em being sold and auctioned off in almost every place BUT Japan? :huh:

When it comes to the biggest and flashiest boxes, I've seen plenty of Lasonic TRC-975's and (round version) TRC-931's in Japanese music videos and Yahoo Japan auctions, but "0" Conions.

I've also never seen any of the major Crown boxes in Japanese hands either. :huh:
 
bill

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i think the answer is simple.

size.

people live in rather small quarters in japan for the most part.

i mean those beasts are just huge.


i also dont think they are crappy at all. in fact i think they are really very good.
they are heavy and well for me even tho the sound might not be as refined as some boomboxes i do think they sound really good.
 
ahardb0dy

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I didn't mean they were crap, just that they build them and others, might be like everything else, they want to have what we have, but they had a lot of other brands to choose from, Aiwa, Sony,etc. who knows??
 
Fatdog

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bill said:
i think the answer is simple.

size.

people live in rather small quarters in japan for the most part.

i mean those beasts are just huge.
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I think Bill makes a good point. :agree:
 
Ghettoman

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ahh but yes places in japan were small..but what about the sharp gf909,919,999,1000,535 ect..they are just as big as the conion. ;-) .
i go on yahoo japan most days and the only conion i've seen for sale on there is the C126...hmmm...i dunno...
 
MONOLITHIC

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Don't forget about those big-ass 3-piece Toshiba's. ;-)

Still, they made those Conions there and yet, nobody there has any. :huh: I bet if I went over there with a J-1, a Master Blaster and a Conion, I'd probably be a god to those boombox collecting cats considering that Lasonics are kind of revered in Japan and sell for top yen in Yahoo Japan auctions... I could probably sell a good/great conditioned C-100F for $2000 and get it. :yes:

And it's kinda funny how that works out... They (Japan) have the boxes we want the most but it's somewhat hard for us to get our hands on those boxes... It's gotta be the same way for them.
 
bill

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most of the boomboxes in japan that were sold were smaller sized ones.
maybe some medium sized ones.
i am pretty sure that bigger ones would have gone to those lucky enough to own a larger home.
many i am sure were sold to institutions such as schools hospitals ect.
thats just my thoughts.
i mean i am sure some of huge boomboxes made towards the end of the golden age were directly aimed at american consumers.
the big lasonics.
the large sized boomboxes like the gf1000 i would guess were often used for karaoke and things like that.
i mean really some of those tokyo apartments are really really small.
i can remember having a friend who taught english over there back in the nineties and her apartment was eighty square feet and cost something like fifteen hundred dollars a month back then.
the bed folded into the wall and there was a table that folded out from the wall when the bed was in the upright position.
i can remember her telling me that many of the people there lived in tiny tiny spaces.
so i dont know i think there must be some wieght to my theory of the big ones over there being sold to smaller numbers.
 
ahardb0dy

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"Not true. It's huge no matter open or closed. Just not as wide but then it becomes the shape of a huge block of ice."

yeah but if you had 2 of them closed you would have instant end table supports!!!
 
bill

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i dont really think those panasonic mini pa systems were every really made for home use.
maybe they were but even the look of them screams industrial use.
i could see them being used for giving a sermon in a church or for a school assembly but i am not so sure about them being used mostly for home listening.
could have been but i am not so sure and they do take up a fair chunk of space when all set up.
 
Gluecifer

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I'd wager the C-100 was manufactured for export only based on what was happening the audio market in America. I'd say the .jp company made it solely for that market , especially based on it's complete lack of subtlety and other design elements that make it appear very un-japanese compared to most other popular models around at the time.



Rock On.
 
jaetee

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Gluecifer said:
I'd wager the C-100 was manufactured for export only based on what was happening the audio market in America. I'd say the .jp company made it solely for that market , especially based on it's complete lack of subtlety and other design elements that make it appear very un-japanese compared to most other popular models around at the time.

Rock On.
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:agree:

I think its a fine example of clever collaboration between marketing, demographics and design by a global company. If I'm not mistaken, Conion was made by Onkyo.

If they were proud of them, why not just keep the name Onkyo?

JVC, Pioneer, Hitachi, Aiwa, Sharp, Toshiba, etc.didn't rebrand their boomboxes for the North American market.

Did Conion even make anything other than boomboxes?
 
MONOLITHIC

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jaetee said:
Gluecifer said:
I'd wager the C-100 was manufactured for export only based on what was happening the audio market in America. I'd say the .jp company made it solely for that market , especially based on it's complete lack of subtlety and other design elements that make it appear very un-japanese compared to most other popular models around at the time.

Rock On.
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:agree:

I think its a fine example of clever collaboration between marketing, demographics and design by a global company. If I'm not mistaken, Conion was made by Onkyo.

If they were proud of them, why not just keep the name Onkyo?

JVC, Pioneer, Hitachi, Aiwa, Sharp, Toshiba, etc.didn't rebrand their boomboxes for the North American market.

Did Conion even make anything other than boomboxes?
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Actually, JVC was and still is called Victor in Japan - you won't find a JVC anything over there. ;-) I think Hitachi branded boomboxes in the Japanese market were called Perdisco - not sure if they still are tho...

Regardless, I get your point. :yes:
 
bill

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Gluecifer said:
I'd wager the C-100 was manufactured for export only based on what was happening the audio market in America. I'd say the .jp company made it solely for that market , especially based on it's complete lack of subtlety and other design elements that make it appear very un-japanese compared to most other popular models around at the time.



Rock On.
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this all makes sense to me.
 
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