Lo-Fi bliss...the "shriekers"!

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Jovie

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WARNING:This post is filled with subjective opinions based largely on a pseudo-science I have developed in my head concerning the sound of boomboxes.Some may find it hits home while others might just get a good laugh.Both responses are acceptable to me.This post,just like a bowel movement,is something I just had to get out of my system.

I'm interested in compiling a list of boxes with harsh highs.Some older boxes from the '80s had a lot of mids on balance.If they are not really clean sounding they can be said to be harsh as they will hurt your ears.Also I'm interested in knowing what boxes might have exaggerated extreme highs that are overly sharp.Keep in mind I'm not necessarily speaking of boxes that are really loud or have the most power though such boxes can have these attributes.

If your thinking this is a strange request your probably right :blush: .Many people are consumed with the idea of getting the highest fidelity for their money.Indeed it is possible that companies decided to emphasize dynamics over fidelity in lieu of affording higher quality components for their designs.However,I also feel some designers might have produced such models with artificial emphasis to make their boxes sound more dynamic at the point of sale even at moderate volume levels.Whatever the real reason for this its a practice that died in the '80s.Strangely I am fond of such "designer" type sounds.Though its not exactly high fidelity,sometimes I'm craving such a listening experience.I'm sure there are others who feel the same way.


As I've stated in other posts,old school sound to me was defined by excessive power,a more forward mid range,and sharp ringing highs as compared to '90s and '00 boxes.Some of these boxes output a cleaner sound such as the Aiwas and JVCs.Others did not and are the boxes I so fondly remember as "shriekers".From my experiences so far I have found them to usually be the off brands though not all off brands have this sound.

Of course bass has remained important to manufacturers through the years as it has always been considered a major selling point.In more recent years they have been able to supply ample amounts of it with cheaper and smaller drivers by the less expensive practice of porting.However,it also seems that in recent years the companies have decided to give you less mid range presence whether or not they could afford to design them with higher fidelity.I suppose this is the reason shriekers vanished from store shelves.Less mids,whether clean sounding or not, make your music experience seem more like your in the back of an auditorium rather than sitting on the front row.To my ears this makes a lot of music sound less immediate and exciting.This also serves to emphasize whatever bass a box has simply because the balance of the sound favors the lower frequencies.Designing in less highs is also obviously a good way for companies to save money.This allows a design with weaker woofers to still have a pleasing perceived balance to its sound.This is because the bass isn't competing with more presence in the higher frequencies.

For comparison purposes,here are a couple of examples of boomers having what I consider old school sound.The fidelity of their sounds differ as one is harsh sounding while the other is not.
(both from the database):

Techsonic MX900:

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This box has ear splitting mids/highs even at moderate volume.In fact it is one of the harshest sounding blasters I think I have ever heard! One might think it possible to tame its sound by lowering its mid/upper sliders (1 K especially ) but this harshness still persists.However,depending on my mood and the music,sometimes I really love to listen to mine.Though it could be classified as somewhat of a weapon,rock (especially the grungier type) comes across with an emphasis and ferocity that only serves to enrich your listening experience.This boomer is a very good example of the type of ear splitting sound to which I refer.

Techsonic Z6800:

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I actually have the Sankei version of this one.This model under its multitude of badges definitely has old school sound by my definition.However it is a much different listening experience than you get from the MX900.Though having a very similar balance to its sound,the Z6800 is almost high fidelity with its delivery!In my opinion this these are definitely one of the biggest sleepers in the world of boombox collecting.The sound is sweet and voice sounds amazingly clean.This box sounds so clean in fact that grungier types of music come across as a bit too "clinical" sounding.For most types of music,however, you could replace your home component stereo system with this box if you are willing to give up certain sound staging attributes of your higher quality separates.This is an amazing box that often times will go for very little on Ebay.However only it's ridiculous reserves of power and volume would run you out of the room.It is in no way harsh sounding.

Interestingly though both of these boxes have very good bass their abundance of mids might give them both an unpleasing balance to many who require a bass heavy sound.This distinction might be less evident with techno or dance music however.

Anyone who has read my posts over the years (at S2Go) might recognize I have approached this subject in various ways many times.Even so,would anyone like to weigh in on this?As I said,this type of sound got me into blasters in the first place.A list of boxes that impart a harsh shrieking character to their sound greatly interest me if anyone can contribute.Of course those feeling higher fidelity is their primary consideration when getting a boombox probably just think i have an ear for bad sound.This may be true but sometimes it's exactly what I want to hear.
 

Old school Scott

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Oh, then you'll love the Magnavox 506 expanded stereo.
Shriek-a-doodle-doo.
Nice full mids and highs
and a TONE button that reads LOW on one side and HIGH on the other.
But it should just read high and more high!
The Magnovox 506 just laughs at you when you try to adjust in some LOWs.
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OSS :afro:
 

redbenjoe

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jovie --by these standards ---------
do you collect// enjoy the sharp brand boxes ??

other than the big 777 series --
there are , imho
ALL SCREAMERS !!!!!!!!!!! :-)
 

Jovie

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Johnny-I agree with you about the looks of the MX900.The version I actually own is a beautiful black with a red stripe.This really makes the plastic chrome stand out.It is quite stunning! I managed to get it at a really good price for some reason.Unfortunately the seller shipped it to me without any padding in the ends of the shipping box. it arrived with large cracks in the case :-/ .It's a shame for something to survive for decades in fine condition only to be destroyed in shipping.Its almost criminal. If I ever get another one I'm sure I'll have to pay a lot more.

OSS-It certainly sounds like that Magnavox has old school sound.Not having bass isn't going to bother me either.sounds like it's a worthy contender.Thanks for the input :-)

redbenjoe- I seem to remember Sharps coming up as having this type of sound in a similar post of mine at S2go.The problem is that they seem to go for ridiculous prices on Ebay.No matter which classic model,they always end up at eleven hundred seventy-seven million dollars.Maybe one day I'll get lucky. :-D
 

oldskool69

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I love this post!!! I'll have to sneak away some time to post what surprisingly, I see as shreiking boomers as well, despite their lofty reps. :lol:
 

MONOLITHIC

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When it comes to highs, the "Do The Right Thing" boxes are the worst sounding boxes I have...
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For years, I always wondered what the term "listening fatigue" meant... The Trident (and Prosonic version) in particular aren't boxes that I'd listen to for long periods of time - even at moderate volume levels... Their bright highs hurt my ears after awhile. I think my cheaply made Lasonic TRC-931 sounded better (at it's peak). And I know for a fact that my former i931 sounded better than those boxes in the highs department. :yes:

Currently, the Trident resides at work (a factory) where that problem isn't a big deal 'cause it has to compete with the noise of machines and whatnot... The Tecsonic is driving my Paradigm Monitor 3 speakers (again, another problem eliminated). And the Prosonic version of the Trident is a box that I don't ever really plan on listening to again... unless it's outside (where I don't really have to focus in on how bad the highs are).
 

Gluecifer

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Another marvellous thread Jovie!

I'm of the mind that because most radios where primarily used to get blasted at high volumes in an outdoors environment that the higher end of the spectrum was always going to be the focus as the highs will carry further, thus making it more efficient at being heard in a larger area, to the point where higher volumes on some radios are impossible to listen to within a 20 foot range. This is just a theory however, but it's painfully obvious bass can't be the focus in due the size/amps/ battery power etc.

As far as the most brutally awesome highs I've attempted to listen to, the BigBen wins hands down. I know the cheaper boxes are what the topic's really about, but if you want some really extremely terrifying treble the BigBen will give you recurring nightmares.. if you so wish to set it up that way of course. It does have perfect balance when you adjust the settings.

I think you'd experience spontaneous orgasm/combustion with it on the highest treble and volume settings, Jovie.



Rock On.
 

Jovie

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oldschool-Please do as your opinions carry a lot of weight with me.I always like it when you weigh in on my threads :-)

Mono-I have that same exact Trident model except in worse condition.I actually have to set the treble pot to max to get the kind of highs I really like :jawdrop: ! Good fidelity is obviously more consistently important to you than it is to me.I enjoy a wide range of sounds to suit my music and my moods.I don't suppose I'll ever hear a Super Jumbo,though.It's out of my price range.Even so it sounds right up my alley.

Gluecifer-Always good input,thanks :yes: Your thoughts on the reason why they had such highs is probably correct.The human ear is more sensitive to the higher frequencies,especially in the range of the human voice.Any box is going to sound louder with an extra emphasis on the mid to upper ranges for that reason.Though it may not measure as louder we will still perceive it as such.
Actually,this thread wasn't meant to be about black box types exclusively.I hope to hear a Big Ben one day.The fact that you can configure it to have the full range of deliveries from polite to vicious intrigues me.

Thanks to all for the suggestions.I have a lot more collecting/exploring to do in the future.These give me some ideas!
 
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