Do you change el caps on a boombox

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kiario

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Hi
Is it a common practice to change the elctrolyte caps when restoring a boombox.
Since bad caps can affect audio quality it seems to be the logic choice to change them.

Since they cant be reliably tested while on the PCB, the best would be to replace them in proactive manner.
Its a somewhat huge job to change them all though.
 

hopey

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Only change them if you really have to. You need a an Oscilloscope to find the noisy ones, for that reason I don't recommend.

Your far better off finding a different boombox in better condition.
 

kiario

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But isn't it so that audio quality be affected if there are some caps that are outside specs?
Not certain you would notice any noise or anything, maybe just dull sound that you dont know you have.
But even with a Oscilloscope you must remove them to check?

There is nothing wrong with this BB but I am gonna change the once I have just for fun to see if it affects the audio quality.
Not that much of a work really.
 
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Superduper

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Yes, if you are restoring and you have the time/money available, DO IT. Worn caps will definitely affect sound quality. If they fail, they can cause acute symptoms and features may fail to work. Shorted or open caps might even cause failure of that channel. Worn caps that haven't failed yet, but are out of spec, have excessive ESR, etc can alter the tonal balance. Worn or iffy caps also frequently cause motorboating sounds, whine, oscillation, and often can be the cause of generally unreliable mysterious gremlins. AS for the recommendation to find another boombox..... why? Moving from one 40 year old boombox because the caps are worn and it's too much trouble to change, so you can replace it with another 40 year old boombox that has, guess what, 40 year old electrolytic caps too? Take the time and the relatively small cost to recap the boombox and you can be sure it will hum along for another 40 years. And NO, you don't need an oscilloscope to troubleshoot caps. You can test them with an LCR meter but by the time you remove them for testing, you might as well put new ones in there rather than stuff the old ones back in there. Otherwise, a boombox that has 4 of the 128 el caps replaced with the rest of the originals still in it can hardly be considered "restored" can it? Better to consider it "fixed." "Restored" suggests a higher level of service than just testing to see if components are in spec or working.
 

kiario

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Thanks superduper, yeah I am going to replace all of them. Never done it before, but it seems to be standard soldering work.
Just make sure I put the polarity right :)
 

hopey

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Thanks superduper, yeah I am going to replace all of them. Never done it before, but it seems to be standard soldering work.
Just make sure I put the polarity right :)

Your likely to do more damage than good due to heat required to remove the the components from the old PCB. Its very easy to blow away a section of track then you have to repair a new problem you just created. If your good enough and the box is worth while then go for it. Certainty not for the faint hearted.

Please reply back in this thread to confirm a good outcome.
 

Superduper

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Your likely to do more damage than good due to heat required to remove the the components from the old PCB. Its very easy to blow away a section of track then you have to repair a new problem you just created. If your good enough and the box is worth while then go for it. Certainty not for the faint hearted.

If you can't change a few caps, and not everyone can, then you probably have no business poking around the insides of a boombox in the first place. I have replaced enough caps in my years to fill a giant gallon pickle jar, and then some, and have NEVER ONCE blown a track. But if I happens, I feel comfortable enough and have the tools/materials to be able to repair that too if necessary, and I'm not just talking tacking on some wire jumpers, I'm talking about actual trace repair. If you do one cap at a time, and note the polarity before removing them, then it's about as simple of a maintenance as you can get, many members here have done this successfully who have never replaced a cap before in their life. But only the person wielding the soldering iron knows their own capability and comfort level. If you soldered successfully and have an "electronics" soldering iron, you are probably OK. If you've merely soldered 10-12 guage automotive wiring with a soldering gun, then hands off.
 

kiario

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No issues soldering really. Started my soldering practice back in 1985 when I was replacing RF modulators on my Commodore 64 because the picture quality was bad.
I have the stuff necessary and I am not that shaky yet :)
 
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