Cybotron - Clear 1984 (80s electro)

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zorlac

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I have a bunch of original 12"s of Clear left over. I don't really like this remix so much it's like soft jazz compaired to the original. If your gonna remix anything, GO BIG!!!
 

Fatdog

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zorlac said:
I don't really like this remix so much it's like soft jazz compaired to the original.
Yeah, this particular version is a cover of 'Clear' - still pretty good but nowhere near the level of the original. :nonono:
 

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zorlac

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Clear-Cybotron. That's the iconic electro track that changed the history of modern music. Some critics are saying that "Cosmic Cars" may have been released before "sharevari" by "ANUMBEROFNAMES".(it says 1981 on the "Sharevari" label but wasn't known to be released until 1982) Sharevari is known to be the first techno record. Cosmic Cars was released in early 1982 and the rest of the album (ENTER) with "Clear" was released in 1983. I also read that "Cosmic Cars" original release was on 7" in late 1979, This would make "cosmic cars" the first techno recrod. I don't know if that is true or not but These electro records were given a title of the very first "techno" records. "CLEAR" was on that same album
 

2steppa

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Juan Atkins is the man, I have the 12" of 'Clear' on Fantasy Records in mint condition. :-)

I love the later stuff he did too as Model 500; 'Ocean To Ocean' 'I See The Light' 'Urban Tropics' etc etc - so much great music :thumbsup:
 

zorlac

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Which release? it was released several times. I get them from MIke of Tyrants in Therapy, He is @ JDC Records (Marcola, jdc knights of the turntables, fantasy, the list is huge) in Cali. I think they have rights and partial ownership of all these tracks for dirstribution. I was selling records for juan back in 1987 when I was living in Miami @ 18 years old. I called him one day and said these dj's wanted to buy more Detroit electro so he started sending boxes of Metroplex vinyls every week. I would go around Miami on my days off and hit every record store that I could. I ended up beefing up my copies of electro and sometimes trade rare Miami bass, so my collection of both is very extensive.
That Clear on fanstasy is one of many rereleases, if it has a barcode on it, its not original. You can sort some of this out at discogs.com but even they don't have all of the different releases.
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docs

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I have the original US 12" of this too.
It is on Fantasy record label and has the catalogue number D-216 and was out in 1983.

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2steppa

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docs said:
I have the original US 12" of this too.
It is on Fantasy record label and has the catalogue number D-216 and was out in 1983.
Same here D-216 and the Fantasy Records sleeve too.

No barcode on mine. Flip is 'Industrial Lies'.
 

zorlac

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When I get back in Flint i'll hit up my storage unit and pull all these copies to see what I have. I know there were sealed copies of the most recent rerelease on fantasy because I always kept copies of electro at the B Boy Boutique for the breakers and dj's. JDC distributors had everything US electro still available.. If it wasn't available they would wait for an accumulation of orders and repress it. I'm pretty sure it's the fantacy blue label w/barcode that were within the last 10 12 years.

In the last 15 years this is what your fantasy label will look like....
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In the 80's this is what your label will look like...

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docs

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2steppa said:
docs said:
I have the original US 12" of this too.
It is on Fantasy record label and has the catalogue number D-216 and was out in 1983.
Same here D-216 and the Fantasy Records sleeve too.

No barcode on mine. Flip is 'Industrial Lies'.

Mine is without barcode too and is 100% 80's US original :thumbsup:
 

zorlac

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Now as far as the 80s versions go, it's harder to tell which were 1983 and 1986 for example, keep in mind this was a popular underground track so it was repressed many times throughout the 80s. Whether any of ours were pressed in 1983 or '84,'85, or '86, for that matter, we'll have to research it more. The labels look the same on the 80s repressings. Don't think yours is from 1983 yet...Give me a little time to pull my collection and call around i'll get more specific in a day or two.
 

zorlac

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Sorry I didn't get back with you sooner, i've been working in another state for a few weeks.

Here's what I have so far. One is all the labels (80's fantasy "clear") are the same, or only slightly different in color. The lettering is the same on the 80s represses so it would be hard for you to tell.if yours is from 1983 or not. Most likely it's not unless you purchased it in 1983. Even then it depends on what time of year in 1983 and what part of the world. If your 12" copy of clear was purchased in Detroit in 1983 I can almost garauntee you have an original pressing. So "Docs" United kingdom? it's poissible too.

. Now for the good stuff...

If your vinyl is slightly thin and has a cd like sound quality to it and if the grooves are not that deep chances are your 1983 clear 12" is a repress. Now there is another thing, the original pressing had a lighter color to the aqua blue fantasy label. The original was pressed from the original analogue recording so it has an unmistakingly warm deeper bass sound to it. The others in the successive years may have been taken from a digitally remastered version of "Clear", hence a cd like quality.

Now i'm not done researching yet but another one of these dj friends of mine who also grew up in middle of this electro scene here in Detroit and Flint suggests that it's possible the groove on the 12" vinyl in the repress would be tighter, hence smaller grooves, less of a wave form (Warmer analogue sounding grooves) and more of a step form recording (or digital master) cd quality groove. So next we are going to measure the width of the original which we have a few copies, 1) being a promo copy and 2) being a few copies we have that were purchased in Detroit back in 1983. We will also take a suspected repress and compair all of them in an exact measurement of the width for compairison.. If it's smaller and tighter we would believe that that is also a repress. You may conduct your own investigation as well any info would help.

Here is a little more information that will help. JDC records, you know the same label as knights of the turntables in california, was and still is a huge distributor of all of this early detroit electro on metroplex, fantasy, macola recording company they may know a little more. Also I have a few more people to ask but these cats are hard to track down these days so bare with me.

Resources to check into
1) It says 2005 here but with some of these early electro tracks this has been like this since the first repressings of the "clear 12"......
.......... http://www.discogs.com/label/JDC+Records+INC.
JDC Records INC.
Profile:
In 2005, legal repressings of many JDC releases appeared.
One cannot tell the difference between the original ones and the old ones.

Sublabels:Dunk Yer Funk Records, Electro Eternal, Fresh Town Records, Housejam Records, Neighborhood Records, SOTB Vinyl
Contact Info:440 Pacific Coast Highway
Hermosa Beach, CA 90254
Tel: (310) 937-4455

E-mail address has been removed
http://www.jdcrecords.com/

2) http://www.jdcrecords.com/

3) http://www.discogs.com/label/Fantasy
 

docs

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Thanks for the update.
I would also check the run out grooves on the represses and originals for differences. Its almost a certainty that the represses do not have anything written in them whereas the originals from the 80's will. Usually D216A etc.
The one I have was bought from a collector in the USA and imported. From following discogs I think mine is from the 80's but not sure if earlier or later.
 
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