C100 Alarm Question

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Transistorized

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Does anyone know if the C100 Alarm goes off indefinitely...or is it timed to stop going off after a few minutes etc.?

Seems like I have heard someone say it's shorter on batteries versus wall current. It's so loud that I have not been able to test this without it driving everyone in the neighborhood nuts....lol.
 

floyd

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I'm pretty sure you turn off the power and alarm then turn the power back on. I had to mess with it one time and after that I never even used the alarm again lol.
 

Transistorized

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Superduper said:
How do you reset it?
Hi Norm. The sensor alarm switch beside the power button stays closed and energized when pressed. Once the alarm is triggered the only way I can get the alarm to stop is to open the sensor switch by pressing it again.

That switch overrides all functions as well. The radio, cassettes and all features are off even when the main power button is on until the alarm switch is switched off.

It's a unique feature

JVC Floyd said:
I'm pretty sure you turn off the power and alarm then turn the power back on. I had to mess with it one time and after that I never even used the alarm again lol.
That is correct Floyd
 

caution

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I just had to take a look, haha. I ended up redrawing the entire circuit to make better sense of it

I wanted to say for sure that it never shuts off, but I found one wire I can't figure out and it ties right into the alarm sound section. It's node "N" on the schematic. It ties to the input of what would be the 11V regulator during normal use, and would seem to want to light up the power LED, which we know doesn't happen in alarm mode. Either the power/sensor LEDs are labeled backwards, the switches are not following their on/off legend at the bottom, or there's a wiring error.

I haven't figured out yet which mode each op amp section is set up for to understand their individual function, but I think the first two act as the timer and the third one acts as the trip switch, and the fourth possibly to support the siren circuit.

Once you press the alarm button, the power supply in the lower-right is enabled. This allows the timer circuit to start. Something slowly builds to a point where a threshold can be crossed by tripping the sensor, which I suspect is happening at Q206. Once that transistor turns on, it enables a signal through the op amp stage it's attached to, which simultaneously enables power to the amp chips by way of Q211 and Q212, and the siren audio circuit by way of the last op amp stage. (full schematic here)

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Superduper

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In your drawing, you have pin 4 going to ground and 11 being fed 5.6v, but in the orig schematic, it looks like it’s reverse of that, just FYI.
 

caution

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Good catch, thanks. I had to flip the op amps to get negative input on top, forgot to flip power/ground connections!
 
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