In the wild find: Sanyo MX-820

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In my past ten years of collecting radios I have both heard and used the term “Holy Grail” or “Grail” when referring to either rare or personal dream blasters. This term is open to interpretation but when it comes to the Sanyo MX-820, the term “Holy Grail” is definitive.

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This box was found in the wild. It took me three months to acquire it. Here is that story.

Since being here in Italy, going on three years now, I have learned that the Italian people do not simply throw things away and buy the latest and greatest. Possessions may change hands many times, but they don’t get simply thrown away. This life style increases the likelihood of finding radio’s, but it also increases the likelihood of them having amateur repair work done to them. Thankfully, this radio did not suffer that fate.

There is a US military base my wife and I visit to do some of our shipping. The shopping area has a small mall section and in the main corridor are little pop up shops that have a rotation of local Italian artisans who come to sell their wares. Almost 4 months ago, while perusing the shops, I saw a large cardboard sign, which had pictures of the artist, in his home studio, working in his medium. This artist paints on pottery. In two of the pictures, in the background, out of focus, is this Sanyo MX-820. My trained eye spotted it immediately and I approached him to inquire about the radio. But I could tell he had no interest in discussing it, so I asked about his artwork, which is clearly his life’s passions. He is a man in his late 50’s early 60’s. I took a picture of his sign, which also included his email and phone number. I tried to think of a way to approach the subject, but otherwise, left it alone.

After a month, he returned to the mall and I, once again inquired about the radio. Again, he had no interest in talking about it. I kept our conversation short as to not annoy him.

Another month went by, again, his pop-up shop returned and again, I stopped by to say hello. This time, I spoke to him more about his artwork. He explained that he is a native of Naples and that his family has been here as far as there is a record or memory. We spoke about his passion for painting on pottery. While looking around his stand and thinking. I decided to make a purchase. I thought, since Christmas is coming, maybe an item for my wife. I chose something, asked him if he could paint a personal message on the back and made the purchase. Following that transaction, I inquired about the radio one more time. I simply asked if there was any way he would consider parting with it. He told me he had no attachment to it, that it was merely his shop radio. He told me he had owned if for at least 30 years and he got it from the original owner when it was almost new.

A few days later, my wife and I returned for some more shopping and I again inquired about the radio. While I was speaking with him, my wife was browsing through his display and found an item she said would be great for our daughter for Christmas. Yet another purchase was made, further greasing the wheels.
Following her transaction with him, I asked if he would consider a trade for his radio? He told me what he would really like would be a radio that played CD’s. I told him I would see what I could find.

I then drove to the local Italian shopping mall, looked around there, drove to the local Euroronics electronics store, took some pictures of some stereo’s they had with CD players and then returned the next day to his booth. He didn’t care for any of the systems I showed him and said he would like to pick something out himself. I asked him if he would simply like the money to make the purchase, but for some reason he said he would rather the two of us go shop together. Which was fine with me.

A few weeks later, he sent me a text message that he had found something at a shop and asked me to meet him there, which I did. He picked out a little Sony egg, with a built in CD player. I paid for it, we went outside and completed our transaction with him pulling the Sanyo from his trunk.

Condition of the 820:

This radio was not a shelf queen. It was a working man’s radio. Every bit as much of a tool in the workshop as the paint brushes and kiln. But it was complete. Every knob and switch tip. Everything but the antennas.
He told me that the radio worked, but that the cassette deck did not. But there were a few details that he left out.

He didn’t mention that the power was ALWAYS ON because the deck was constantly powered, so he must have been plugging and unplugging it to turn it on and off. He also didn’t mention that the only tuner band working was AM (MW in Europe). The night before I met with him to complete the transaction, I sent him a message to tell him not to try to clean the box, that I have my own procedure for cleaning. I didn’t want to risk him doing more damage trying to clean it.

Since the radio had been in a pottery workshop for thirty years, I fully expected it to be filthy and it was. When he pulled it from his trunk it looked like it had been wiped down with a wet cloth and the powdered dust left a residue across the tuning glass and aluminum front trim. Upon further inspection, I found this “residue” did not wipe off and that in fact, at some point, a chemical agent, possibly acetone was used to wipe the radio down. Basically, the whole face of the radio was etched.

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I was happy to find that the radio had never been opened and no one had ever attempted any repairs. But the main flat belt was a gooey mess and all the grease throughout the deck had turned to goo as well.

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Clean Up and Repair:

If you know my history on this forum, then you know that I have acquired a host of skills for overcoming most of the issues found with these vintage machines. However, the etched tuner glass and aluminum trim was especially upsetting. This radio’s whole “Trick” is the floating digital tuner, which was basically obscured by the foggy tuner glass. I tried all sorts of cleaners to no avail. Then, with literally nothing to lose, I decided I would use scratch remover rubbing compound that is used to take scratches out of car clear coat. I tested it on a junk radio and was surprised it didn’t do any damage, so I moved on to the MX-820 tuning glass. One of the issues is, the tuning glass of the 820 is melted/bonded in place. Removal is not impossible, but finding another one is, so I needed to tread lightly. I immediately started to see encouraging results with zero damage. It took 4 hours of polishing to clear the etching from the tuner and although it’s not 100% perfect, it’s 98% free of damage. I then moved onto the aluminum trim panel and again, got super lucky. As it turns out, Sanyo, in their manufacturing process must have clear coated over the silk screening of the panel information, because the scratch remover removed the etching, but not the panel information. I was able to remove 100% of the etching from that.

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I repeated this process on the cassette door plexi and VU meter plexi.

All the potentiometers and switches got a cleaned and deoxit with lube and all of them returned to service without and issues. This returned the FM and SW bands to working order.

The deck however was another story. This deck is similar to other Sanyo decks, but unique to this box. It closely resembles the MX-920, but the 920 deck uses a large single solenoid to achieve it’s operation, this deck is solenoid-free and utilizes micro electric switches in each button and precise alignment of mechanical sliders, cogs and levers. And of course, all of this stuff was covered in belt goo and old grease, now impregnated with pottery dust!

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I am no deck expert, and certainly not a logic deck expert. I will also say that Sanyo did not make it easy to take this box apart since much of the internals are layered PC boards, with soldered wire connections tying it all together (think Lasonic TRC-931/920). Add in hidden screws throughout and the whole thing is a “worst case scenario” rebuild. THANKFULLY there is a service manual for this box available at http://www.analogalley.com/ and it became invaluable for this rebuild, just in terms of finding the screws to remove the chassis. Unlike JVC who utilizes a chassis, but color codes the screws (blue, purple and gold), Sanyo uses gold screws everywhere and the chassis screws are not just on the perimeter, they are sprinkled throughout the PC boards, mixed in with the screws that hold the PC boards in place.

Add in the fact that the deck mech is hard wired in and is on a short leash made doing a full tear down of the deck a real PITA.

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And full tear down it was. I don’t typically go this deep into any deck, but with this radio’s value, I knew this deck has to work. Again, using the service manual, I was able to get through 98% of the rebuild only hitting one snag on reassembling that required contacting member Max in Germany who has this box. He turned me onto a video on YouTube that has still pictures of the deck that showed me I had one lever out of place. Once that was corrected, the deck fired right up. But this was still after 20 hours of cleaning and fiddling.

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The last issue to deal with was a lazy left VU meter. I was able to track this down to a variable resistor on the amp board that is used to adjust the meters to be the same level left and right. It was faulty and one has been ordered. Again, thanks to the service manual. The last thing I did was track down and adjust the battery level meter and this box is complete.

In the end, I did not do a concourse restoration. I’m certain, with more time, I could restore all of its history right out of this box, making it an eBay “High Earner”. But I have chosen not to do that. This is a working mans box. It put in long hours along side it’s owner for 30+ years. I didn’t want to just wash that all down the drain. I may clean and touch up the woofer grills at a later date, but to me, it’s tied to the story. Few boxes in my collection have this much of a back story and it is now part of my time living here in Italy. Something I will never forget. It will also go into the part of my collection next to the JVC RC-M90, Clairtone 7979 and Hitachi Perdisco TRK-8600RM. This is a classification of radio’s that represents the style of many of the European boombox collectors I have met on my journey here. The high end, feature packed “Premium” boxes and I’m proud to have it.

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This is an instance when an in the wild find can make a 40 or 50 something feel the same giddiness as an 11 year old on Christmas morning.
Incredible find and story. Enjoyed this from start to finish.
 

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Awesome story! Glad I was able to help if only by providing a YouTube link. :)
It's these kind of stories that make collecting boomboxes such a great hobby - every box has its own story of how it came to be in your collection.
Some of the stories of these radios, we will never know. If they could talk, they sure would have crazy stuff to tell!
But i mean, come on, how cool is it to say you tracked this radio down from a ceramic shop by spotting it on their photos by coincidence!
It reminds me of my fist Bombeat 40 that I got from a farmer near Athens who wanted to throw it out because he got a new stereo system but thought it was too nice to just toss so he listed it for 40€.
I think there are few people who deserve this find more than you, Chris! Congrats on that 820, enjoy it! :)

(by the way, I also considered touching up the grills on mine but decided to leave them as they are. Original is always better, even with a few scuffs here and there.)
 

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Hisrudeness said:
This is an instance when an in the wild find can make a 40 or 50 something feel the same giddiness as an 11 year old on Christmas morning.
Incredible find and story. Enjoyed this from start to finish.
During the three months it took to acquire, I didn't even whisper anything to my wife in fear of jinxing myself. And yes, the adrenaline rush on the day of the transaction was like Christmas morning age 3-11 all in one. Thanks R.

docs said:
Congrats on the epic journey to securing it.
Man, I had you riding shotgun over my shoulder through this whole deck rebuild. As I neared the end and the first time I pressed the play button and it actually did something (I was in shock btw) I realized how far I have come. Not just in terms of reading schematics, acquiring the hand tools and knowledge, but also calming the f**k down and knowing when to take a step back, turn off the shop light and try again tomorrow. Realistically, I think I had to go through the odyssey of the M90 deck repair before I could take this one. As if this massive journey had to go in this order. So thank you for your help in the previous radio. I don;t think I could have done this, with out that!

mmcodomino said:
Awesome story! Glad I was able to help if only by providing a YouTube link. :)
It's these kind of stories that make collecting boomboxes such a great hobby - every box has its own story of how it came to be in your collection.
Some of the stories of these radios, we will never know. If they could talk, they sure would have crazy stuff to tell!
But i mean, come on, how cool is it to say you tracked this radio down from a ceramic shop by spotting it on their photos by coincidence!
It reminds me of my fist Bombeat 40 that I got from a farmer near Athens who wanted to throw it out because he got a new stereo system but thought it was too nice to just toss so he listed it for 40€.
I think there are few people who deserve this find more than you, Chris! Congrats on that 820, enjoy it! :)

(by the way, I also considered touching up the grills on mine but decided to leave them as they are. Original is always better, even with a few scuffs here and there.)
Max, it seems so simple, and it was. Yep, you just sent me a YouTube video. But I spent a full day at that point fully assembling and disassembling the deck 15-20 times looking for that one missing link. Some times when you take these decks apart, you can't see the back side as you do it, that spring that dislodges, that cog position, that lever's lock. Such was the case here. When I removed the bottom key/button mechanism, a level that is next to the large cog was dislodged. I looked at up close pictures of the MX-920, which is similar, but I couldn't see the position of that lever. Once you sent that video (this video btw) I instantly saw that the lever locked into a small square slot in the button assembly that prevented it from being reeled into the large cog and locking the deck. I pulled two screws, re-positioned the lever, reassembled and pushed play and PRESTO! That simple!

Mark1892 said:
Great story and great find.
Thanks Mark
 

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Wow, well-deserved find! Your personal skills surely helped cement the deal. You made him think you cared about him and his art, not just his radio.

I also use scratch remover, specifically Novus #3 for deep scratches, Novus #2 for fine scratches, and Turtle Wax Scratch & Swirl Remover for the most sensitive jobs, including simple haze removal and polishing aluminum trim. :yes:
 

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Finally a rare box lol.
You deserve or brother!.
Have you seen the all silver MX 830 ?.
I love how cheap it was lol, now that's a score .
there might be one of these for every million bb 40's produced .
awesome.

That is the true ultra high end Sanyo 1 piece box
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Also that work you put in , I only wish I could have you work on mine , there are also a lot of members here I would to have fix up all my boxes if I could afford it.
 

Van Presence

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Ah classic. Welcome to the club. Ha. Seems like a fantastic deal.
I'm really gonna have to get mine looked at and fixed now. I also found the service manual, crazy that very common radio manuals are impossible to find but the 820 was super easy.
Watch out scratching the painted silver bits, the brown plastic is underneath.
Well played 👍
 

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Wow, awesome story Chris!! I was recounting your amazing story to my wife and as I finished, she asked me one simple question:

‘That’s a nice radio but where are the pictures of the nice pottery he bought?’ :lol:

James.... :-)
 

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Wow Chris that is an amazing story culminating in aquistition of one of the rarest boxes around, so happy for you. As Floyd said, definitely your personality that scored this.
 

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Reli said:
Wow, well-deserved find! Your personal skills surely helped cement the deal. You made him think you cared about him and his art, not just his radio.

I also use scratch remover, specifically Novus #3 for deep scratches, Novus #2 for fine scratches, and Turtle Wax Scratch & Swirl Remover for the most sensitive jobs, including simple haze removal and polishing aluminum trim.
Thanks Reli, trying to work the deal anyway I can. I remember hearing story's from gsbadbmr back in the day. Him tell me how getting out there and talking to people, spreading the word, asking around, then talking to them, not just about you wanting to buy their radio, but talking to them as a person, building a relationship. How all that opens up the door. That was good advise and it paid off here.

Northerner said:
Great story...always prefer the boxes with some history and this is a particularly nice one
Thanks Simon, no back stories on an eBay purchase. That comes with boots on the ground!


JVC Floyd said:
Finally a rare box lol.
You deserve or brother!.
Have you seen the all silver MX 830 ?.
I love how cheap it was lol, now that's a score .
there might be one of these for every million bb 40's produced .
awesome.

That is the true ultra high end Sanyo 1 piece box
.

Also that work you put in , I only wish I could have you work on mine , there are also a lot of members here I would to have fix up all my boxes if I could afford it.
Geeze dude, can't go searching for the MX-830
Took a life time to find this one! But my eyes are always peeled
Funny you mention the BB40's. They used to seem as rare as hen's teeth. But over the last 4-5 years they seemed to have popped up everywhere. Maybe the same will happen with these


Van Presence said:
Ah classic. Welcome to the club. Ha. Seems like a fantastic deal.
I'm really gonna have to get mine looked at and fixed now. I also found the service manual, crazy that very common radio manuals are impossible to find but the 820 was super easy.
Watch out scratching the painted silver bits, the brown plastic is underneath.
Well played
Yes, that fake wood grain is easy to damage, Trying not to do more damage while cleaning the box is just as hard. Watch that video (link above), it really shows how to take the deck apart. It only has three belts. It wasn't that bad once I had the manual and knew what the hell I was doing!


jimmyjimmy19702010 said:
Wow, awesome story Chris!! I was recounting your amazing story to my wife and as I finished, she asked me one simple question:

‘That’s a nice radio but where are the pictures of the nice pottery he bought?’


James....
As mentioned in the story, I asked the artist to add a special message to my wife on the back of the item I bought from him. This required him taking the item back, painting the message and sending it through the kiln again. It should be ready for pick up this week! I will post a picture of it once I pick it up.

T-STER said:
As Floyd said, definitely your personality that scored this.
Well, it certainly wasn't my good looks
Thanks T. Much Appreciated.

As mentioned a little in the story, this box represents a whole other side of Boombox collecting that I have learned about since moving to Europe. Living in California, it was about HUGE boxes with tons of chrome. But the Euro collectors are focused on precision boxes. And I must also mention Reli in this group, as he makes allot of purchase from Europe, tracking down these types of boxes. These are portable high fidelity machines and I have added so many of these since being here. Finding this box was pure luck for sure, but it checks all those boxes. I have certainly learned a ton from all the Euro collectors, so for that, I thank you all.

Lastly, I want to thank Samovar for all his "Good Luck Sanyo Mojo". He is the Sanyo KING and I'm thrilled to finally be able to say "I finally got a model you don't have!"
JUST JOKING! Thanks for rooting me on!
 

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Check this out, this must be the most rare version of this box. Instead of the big black needles, it has LED meters in the upper left corner. This is an MX820 from an Australian catalog. Never seen one like this before!


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Reli said:
Check this out, this must be the most rare version of this box. Instead of the big black needles, it has LED meters in the upper left corner. This is an MX820 from an Australian catalog. Never seen one like this before!


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Very different box to Chris’s example. The deck keys look identical to the keys of the M9998. I bet the decks are the same.4E81495F-CB88-4AFB-8D8B-41B50BCACED6.png
 
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