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#1 Transistorized

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Posted 04 July 2018 - 07:16 AM

Noticed they mentioned stereo but how do you get stereo with only one tweeter....or is that a bass port?

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#2 Reli

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Posted 04 July 2018 - 07:49 AM

It's a tweeter

 

It's definitely not the way I would have designed it, but hey, as long as a box has more than 1 speaker, it can be stereo.  Doesn't matter if it's 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, etc.



#3 Superduper

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Posted 04 July 2018 - 08:45 AM

Same old B B B S.

#4 JVC Floyd

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Posted 04 July 2018 - 08:55 AM

It's okay to be confused because the motherfookers making them are even more confused.

#5 Reli

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Posted 04 July 2018 - 10:03 AM

I don't see an FM tuner in the list of specs, so they may have deleted it.  Not surprising, considering how many people were having problems with it.  The DJ Tech is the only modern box I've tested that has good reception.



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Posted 04 July 2018 - 10:46 AM

And still with the shitety towel rail handle....



#7 Transistorized

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Posted 04 July 2018 - 10:58 AM

Well I appreciate the feedback guys. Knowing that is a tweeter, I can't see how it could produce stereo "correctly". I guess the bottom woofers could be stereo while the highs are mono? I don't see how that would work but I guess you could design it that way.

I would've asked directly on FB but in the past my questions seem to go unanswered and never make it onto the page. But if you post, "Can't wait to get mine" it pops up right away.

Don't get me wrong, I can certainly understand filtering negative comments on the page but I don't think asking about stereo should be a red flag for removal and/or dismissal. It seems to me to be a legit question just as asking about price. But to me dodging the question is actually an indirect answer :-)

I don't see an FM tuner in the list of specs, so they may have deleted it.  Not surprising, considering how many people were having problems with it.  The DJ Tech is the only modern box I've tested that has good reception.


That's so true. I love my DJ Tech. It picks up as well as my older boomers. I keep saying it over and over but I am so glad to have jumped on the opportunity to get one while they lasted. After the battery and charger mod I did, it makes it legendary.

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Posted 04 July 2018 - 12:14 PM

Your DJ Techs have good FM reception? Mine is mediocre at best. I thought I remember others saying theirs were lackluster in that area.

#9 MyOhMy

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Posted 04 July 2018 - 12:25 PM

I'm also confused - but this just may be an age thing.......................................



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Posted 04 July 2018 - 12:41 PM

This design has potential, but I would have gone with coaxials and a port if it's ported, or just a large volume knob if it's a sealed cabinet. Has anyone been in direct contact with DJ Tech?



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Posted 04 July 2018 - 12:45 PM

Well I appreciate the feedback guys. Knowing that is a tweeter, I can't see how it could produce stereo "correctly". I guess the bottom woofers could be stereo while the highs are mono? I don't see how that would work but I guess you could design it that way.

 

 

Think about it this way, there's tons of boxes with 5 speakers, like the Magnavox D8443, so there's nothing wrong with a 3-speaker box either.  The speaker in the middle is simply going to be "mono" while the other speakers are stereo.

 

 

Your DJ Techs have good FM reception? Mine is mediocre at best. I thought I remember others saying theirs were lackluster in that area.

 

Open it up and look for the antenna wire.  Experiment with how it's routed.  Maybe lengthen it.  I think it's behind the right woofer.



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Posted 04 July 2018 - 04:51 PM

And still with the shiteety towel rail handle....

HAHA, it also looks like a dynamite detonator



#13 Superduper

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Posted 04 July 2018 - 06:17 PM

Actually, it’s totally stupid if it’s the case, that the woofers are stereo and the center speaker is a tweeter. That would be asss backwards. The reason is this: low frequencies are pretty much omnidirectional, or certainly less directional than high frequencies. That’s why subwoofers generally are just a single box that can be placed anywhere nearby in a home system & in the center of a Boombox (still appropriate). But tweeters are highly directional which is why they are placed as far apart as possible and gives you the spatial effect of stereo. A single tweet in the freakin middle, are you freakin kidding me? Why cheap out like that? How much more could another single tweet costs? No room? Fark, install it coaxial style then. Anyhow, seems again like a chef by day, brake mechanic at night. Or at the very minimum, a company completely unclear on the concept.

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Posted 04 July 2018 - 08:53 PM

I would much rather prefer a single 8" subwoofer in the middle and two 3" drivers - one on the left and one on the right of the sub.

 

And for goodness sake... get rid of that towel bar handle and use a more suitable handle that can fold down.



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Posted 04 July 2018 - 09:29 PM

Even better, the tweeters should be mounted at a 45 degree angle pointed up.  After all, Bumpboxxes are intended for outdoor use, where they will be placed on the ground......not up high on a desk.



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Posted 04 July 2018 - 09:45 PM

Defies logic and very basics of stereo, as Superduper already said! But for the i-gen crowd this will be a revelation: two woofers must be Stereo!! Not your father's bbox... ;-)

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Posted 05 July 2018 - 10:52 AM

Noticed they mentioned stereo but how do you get stereo with only one tweeter....or is that a bass port?

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They are idiots. 



#18 Transistorized

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Posted 05 July 2018 - 02:48 PM

I'm glad to see that I am not alone. My feelings were exact with Norm. I've seen plenty of odd speaker stereo designs but it was/has always been with the woofer being centered or singled. Clarity and detail has always rested with the highs and that was where your channel separation was. I'm not an engineer but I've owned enough radios in my time to know that a single tweeter was...well....just backwards. Put one woofer and two tweeters and I wouldn't have questioned it at all. I was giving the box the benefit of the doubt by thinking (hoping) that was a bass port..lol

I really think they would sell a bunch of units if they would just make the darn things stereo. Geezers what's so hard about that? How much more could it really cost the consumer? Another 80 bucks for a good tuner and true stereo? Hey sounds good to me. Don't get me wrong. I understand the emphasis of outdoor power but they are now making references to the box being stereo and I think we can all agree....not with that speaker arrangement. Not correctly anyhow.

What really gets me is the emphasis they now put by mentioning stereo and the folks that know are looking at the speaker arrangement and are scratching their heads. However, to be honest, they mentioned the AMP was stereo...not that the radio actually plays in stereo.

It just smells off and so I think I will pass. I like the size though. I want a true stereo box with a good tuner. When they do this I may get one:-)

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Posted 05 July 2018 - 04:42 PM

It IS a stereo box.  It's just not configured to our tastes.

 

They probably started off intending to make it a mono box, but after receiving so many complaints about stereo, decided to add a stereo amp at the last minute.  And at that point it was too late to change the speaker arrangement.



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Posted 05 July 2018 - 06:13 PM

I would be interested to hear the effect this has on stereo sound. It has my curiosity up :-)

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Posted 05 July 2018 - 06:19 PM

If it has a stereo amp all they need is a pair of coaxial speakers I mean it's not f****** rocket science you can buy 8 inch coaxial speakers on eBay.

Those bumpboxx woofers are f****** junk anyway any real amplifier would smoke those m************ inside a 5 Seconds.

If I was building something to sell to the public I could not build that ugly piece of s*** and sleep at night.

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Posted 05 July 2018 - 06:30 PM

Ha ha ahahaha



#23 Superduper

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Posted 05 July 2018 - 06:48 PM

I would be interested to hear the effect this has on stereo sound. It has my curiosity up :-)


I doubt it even sounds like stereo unless those are full range drivers as opposed to woofers or worse, subwoofers. That’s because there’s more to stereo sound than 2 speakers... stereo sound is about separation. The better the separation, the greater the stereo sound effect. And like previously stated, high frequencies are more directional, whereas bassy sounds are not and radiate in every direction. So if you have subwoofers operating as stereo speakers 10” apart, those low frequencies are just going to mix up and jumbled together. The exception will be full range drivers which is very common in Boomboxes. Full range drivers DO produce the high frequencies that define stereo sound. But full range drivers simply aren’t capable of pounding really heavy bass which requires stiff cones, and stiff cones kills treble.

Helll I’m certain those guys read our forums and they should be sending me about a dozen of those things for FREE right about now on account of all the free education they are getting. Still they are apparently really poor students.

#24 Reli

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Posted 05 July 2018 - 07:28 PM

Considering that no Bumpboxx has ever had true subwoofers, you can bet those woofers are full-range (or at least bass + mids).



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Posted 05 July 2018 - 08:45 PM

more crap lol



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Posted 11 July 2018 - 09:35 PM

Your DJ Techs have good FM reception? Mine is mediocre at best. I thought I remember others saying theirs were lackluster in that area.


Hey tripp, my DJ Tech's tuner works really really well, It easily picks up all the stations that my classics pick up :-)

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Posted 13 July 2018 - 01:44 AM

Your DJ Techs have good FM reception? Mine is mediocre at best. I thought I remember others saying theirs were lackluster in that area.

Hey tripp, my DJ Tech's tuner works really really well, It easily picks up all the stations that my classics pick up :-)

Weird I'll have to look at the antenna. I can get the stations but they're all far from clear.

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Posted 14 July 2018 - 09:19 AM

And still with the shiteeety towel rail handle....

HAHA, it also looks like a dynamite detonator

:lol: :lol:

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Posted 15 July 2018 - 10:45 AM

You know, giving it a second look, I still dont like it, BUT... they easily could have put a tweeter behind the "b" and basically made the "b" a speaker grille and bezel. So it would still have the "b" but have the tweeter behind it. That would actually be kinda cool, even though it still looks odd

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Posted 15 July 2018 - 12:08 PM

Two tweeters stacked on top of each other? Like, dare I say it, TWO on a tree, but Boombox style? Sheesh, still would be source of ridicule & critique.