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#1 Barb Bush

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Posted 15 February 2018 - 10:08 AM

Not sure if this was posted yet. 

 

https://diamondboxx....t=1022400430086

 

Model L2 PREORDER SALE - Ships by end of April 2018

Regular price $ 899.00

 

  • Hand made in the USA 
  • 445 Watts
  • 117 dB outside, 120+ indoors
  • True Stereo Sound, wireless or aux input
  • Covered with DuraTex™ coating 
  • Big 16.8 Volt, 231 Watt-hour battery offers up to 48 hours of play on single charge
  • Battery Level Indicator and VU meters
  • Linking system allows one DiamondBoxx to control others
  • 40Hz - 22,000Hz +/- 3dB

 



#2 Ghettoboom767

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Posted 15 February 2018 - 10:46 AM

Wow,if those specs are true this will be some Boombox!!
But 900.00?! Ouch!😮😎📻

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Posted 15 February 2018 - 11:59 AM

Well, at least they finally gave it some grills

 

And a class A/B amp instead of D........nice!



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Posted 15 February 2018 - 01:15 PM

Reli, YOUR suitcase boombox is a whole lot more attractive than THIS suitcase (non)Boombox.



#5 jimmyjimmy19702010

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Posted 15 February 2018 - 02:04 PM

DiamondBoxx has always used AB amps.

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Posted 17 February 2018 - 08:54 AM

It's great that it is in stereo. If they could sell it at that price with a Radio, a few inputs and a Record to USB or external media  of some type, they'd sell like hotcakes.

 

I shake my head sometimes and find it amazing that we need to emphasize, clarify and verify stereo operation with our 3 and 4 digit purchases in this day and age. Makes me feel like we are going backwards. Stereo used to be a big deal but now should be considered mandatory and is expected. 

 

It's like needing to confirm your Brand New TV is in COLOR



#7 JVC Floyd

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Posted 17 February 2018 - 09:24 AM

Well from what I see its just another amplified speaker box.
The wonders of modern technology lol.

#8 Nickeccles

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Posted 17 February 2018 - 04:01 PM

Well from what I see its just another amplified speaker box.
The wonders of modern technology lol.

Lol yeah me too - I just don't get it!



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Posted 18 February 2018 - 09:58 AM

What a lump of crap!

#10 Reli

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Posted 18 February 2018 - 10:10 AM

Why is it crap?  It might not have the style we want, and I'll probably never buy one, but it's built better than most of the other stuff out there.



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Posted 18 February 2018 - 04:20 PM

you can get an m90 conion cheaper than this so would rather those



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Posted 18 February 2018 - 07:35 PM

you can get an m90 conion cheaper than this so would rather those


I totally agree,we know those kick ass!!😊😎🎶🎼📻📻

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Posted 18 February 2018 - 11:04 PM

I’d like one of each: M90, C100F, DiamondBoxx L2. :-)

The classics for when I need ‘the look’ and the Diamondboxx for when I need maximum performance! :rock:

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Posted 19 February 2018 - 01:24 AM

.....The classics for when I need ‘the look’ and the Diamondboxx for when I need maximum performance! :rock:


Ok, but how do I tune into my favorite radio station & play it back in maximum performance with it? Or my recorded cassette tapes? No can do? Uhhhh...... well Ok, no problem, just tell me where’s the CD slot then.

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Posted 19 February 2018 - 02:09 AM

.....The classics for when I need ‘the look’ and the Diamondboxx for when I need maximum performance! :rock:

Ok, but how do I tune into my favorite radio station & play it back in maximum performance with it? Or my recorded cassette tapes? No can do? Uhhhh...... well Ok, no problem, just tell me where’s the CD slot then.
Please don’t get so defensive of vintage boomers! We all know they’re cool as fook! For some applications however (big outdoor parties), there is a better tool for the job.

Big BT speakers are a means to an end. Are they cool? Nope. Are they collectible? Nope.
Do they provide party levels of amp output? Yes. :rock:

Peace,

James..... :-)

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Posted 19 February 2018 - 05:36 AM

 

.....The classics for when I need ‘the look’ and the Diamondboxx for when I need maximum performance! :rock:


Ok, but how do I tune into my favorite radio station & play it back in maximum performance with it? Or my recorded cassette tapes? No can do? Uhhhh...... well Ok, no problem, just tell me where’s the CD slot then.

 

Totally agree Norm, as far as im aware these don't even have tone controls lol



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Posted 19 February 2018 - 06:10 AM

.....The classics for when I need ‘the look’ and the Diamondboxx for when I need maximum performance! :rock:


Ok, but how do I tune into my favorite radio station & play it back in maximum performance with it? Or my recorded cassette tapes? No can do? Uhhhh...... well Ok, no problem, just tell me where’s the CD slot then.
Totally agree Norm, as far as im aware these don't even have tone controls lol

:lol:

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Posted 19 February 2018 - 06:55 AM

 

 

 

.....The classics for when I need ‘the look’ and the Diamondboxx for when I need maximum performance! :rock:


Ok, but how do I tune into my favorite radio station & play it back in maximum performance with it? Or my recorded cassette tapes? No can do? Uhhhh...... well Ok, no problem, just tell me where’s the CD slot then.
Totally agree Norm, as far as im aware these don't even have tone controls lol

:lol:

 

am i incorrect Jimmy? please fill us in :-)



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Posted 19 February 2018 - 08:20 AM

Bumpboxx and DJ Tech have bass and treble knobs.  I don't know what the Diamondboxx has.  

 

I'm not sure about adding a CD player into something so bass-heavy.  Even the Kaboom has problems with its CD player vibrating and making noise during heavy bass.



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Posted 19 February 2018 - 10:36 AM

Bumpboxx and DJ Tech have bass and treble knobs. I don't know what the Diamondboxx has.

I'm not sure about adding a CD player into something so bass-heavy. Even the Kaboom has problems with its CD player vibrating and making noise during heavy bass.

Reli, I read this in one of your previous posts & immediately went to my kaboom & played it at either max, or near max volume & max bass . I had zero audible issues with vibration so it could be that this problem is not a widespread one.

@jimmy; I’m not being defensive nor was it intended as such, really merely stating facts and expanding on Floyd’s post. When I was first attracted to Boomboxes starting with my first (a smallish mono superscope), it was because it was all-in-one. For performance, I had my home seperates but I never did lump those 2-means of audio enjoyment together. To me then and now, they are not the same class. That’s because to me a Boombox is far more than a audio device with a battery, it is something that is self contained, the ability to have music with nothing else required. That’s why even though I had those too, walkmans were never considered to me to be Boomboxes either since it’s missing a needed ingredient. Now comes things like these.... strip out the tuner, strip out the cassette, strip out or never include a CD to begin, heck strip out everything except speakers, and call it a Boombox simply because it has a golf cart battery in it. Uh, no. That’s why without something as simple as a tuner, standalone, it’s merely a huge paperweight. Maybe when they figure out how to add a tuner to their $900 product, something that others have figured out how to do on their $19.95 offerings, I’ll look at it in a different light. In the meantime, it’s just another Bluetooth portable speaker system, nothing more and it’s definitely not a Boombox because it has none of the features or defining criteria to compare with an M90 or anything else. This does not mean that there’s no place for this “new” form of audio device. Just like a car or home amplifier has its place, and I have car and home audio gear. But they aren’t Boomboxes. Anyhow thats how I’ve always felt and will always feel, even though it’s just a name, yet I’m passionate about it because for 40 years, my idea and defining criteria of a boombox is what I love.

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Posted 19 February 2018 - 10:46 AM

It's ugly plain and simple who wants to spend $900 on ugly.

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Posted 19 February 2018 - 11:31 AM

I'm sure it sounds great, but is not a boombox. Bluetooth speaker that is very expensive. Worth it? That's all in the eye of the beholder. I only bought the bumpboxx because it has a little more of a old school boombox shape AND a FM tuner, but at $500+ that's still a stretch for a disposable product (no serviceable parts). I have to have a tuner and other features besides just bluetooth to enjoy it. Bumpboxx supposedly had a tuner but doesn't advertise that it is almost useless so really now I just own a giant bluetooth speaker.

 

 

It has to have more than just a box shape to be a boombox.



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Posted 19 February 2018 - 02:43 PM

I've said it many times but I think the DJ-Tech nailed it. Why are they no longer selling them? IDK because they could very easily sell a bunch more

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Posted 21 February 2018 - 01:45 PM

 

 

 

 

.....The classics for when I need ‘the look’ and the Diamondboxx for when I need maximum performance! :rock:


Ok, but how do I tune into my favorite radio station & play it back in maximum performance with it? Or my recorded cassette tapes? No can do? Uhhhh...... well Ok, no problem, just tell me where’s the CD slot then.
Totally agree Norm, as far as im aware these don't even have tone controls lol

:lol:

 

am i incorrect Jimmy? please fill us in :-)

 

You are correct!  The bass and treble are controlled from your bluetooth device [mobile phone, tablet, computer.] using a graphic EQ applet.  Otherwise, I find that I don't need it.  The DiamondBoxx corrects for sound quality.



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Posted 21 February 2018 - 02:38 PM

I've said it many times but I think the DJ-Tech nailed it. Why are they no longer selling them? IDK because they could very easily sell a bunch more

 

Yes, marketing would have done WONDERS for this blaster's production numbers.



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Posted 21 February 2018 - 03:54 PM

I've said it many times but I think the DJ-Tech nailed it. Why are they no longer selling them? IDK because they could very easily sell a bunch more

 

Because they're in Hong Kong and don't really care what happens here.  They abandoned their US sales contractors.  They couldn't compete with the big brands of DJ mixers & turntables.



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Posted 22 February 2018 - 01:45 AM

 

Bumpboxx and DJ Tech have bass and treble knobs. I don't know what the Diamondboxx has.

I'm not sure about adding a CD player into something so bass-heavy. Even the Kaboom has problems with its CD player vibrating and making noise during heavy bass.

Reli, I read this in one of your previous posts & immediately went to my kaboom & played it at either max, or near max volume & max bass . I had zero audible issues with vibration so it could be that this problem is not a widespread one.

@jimmy; I’m not being defensive nor was it intended as such, really merely stating facts and expanding on Floyd’s post. When I was first attracted to Boomboxes starting with my first (a smallish mono superscope), it was because it was all-in-one. For performance, I had my home seperates but I never did lump those 2-means of audio enjoyment together. To me then and now, they are not the same class. That’s because to me a Boombox is far more than a audio device with a battery, it is something that is self contained, the ability to have music with nothing else required. That’s why even though I had those too, walkmans were never considered to me to be Boomboxes either since it’s missing a needed ingredient. Now comes things like these.... strip out the tuner, strip out the cassette, strip out or never include a CD to begin, heck strip out everything except speakers, and call it a Boombox simply because it has a golf cart battery in it. Uh, no. That’s why without something as simple as a tuner, standalone, it’s merely a huge paperweight. Maybe when they figure out how to add a tuner to their $900 product, something that others have figured out how to do on their $19.95 offerings, I’ll look at it in a different light. In the meantime, it’s just another Bluetooth portable speaker system, nothing more and it’s definitely not a Boombox because it has none of the features or defining criteria to compare with an M90 or anything else. This does not mean that there’s no place for this “new” form of audio device. Just like a car or home amplifier has its place, and I have car and home audio gear. But they aren’t Boomboxes. Anyhow thats how I’ve always felt and will always feel, even though it’s just a name, yet I’m passionate about it because for 40 years, my idea and defining criteria of a boombox is what I love.

 

 

I'm 100% with you Norm. 

 

But I will add, in my OPINION, a "Boombox" is a 1970's-80's creation that only existed up to maybe 1991-2. Every egg, cobra top, compo, tube and bluetooth speaker from the 1990's forward is something else. They are sound reproduction devices with it's own category and features.

 

A Boombox as has been previously defined by this website stand alone and are separate from these new systems. In my opinion, even the DJ tech falls outside of the category of "Boombox" as it is a mobile mixing board that happens to have built in speakers on the front that "resembles" a classic Boombox. Of anything that has been produced today, I would say the GPO is the only thing that stands up as a Boombox and is more than just a bluetooth speaker (ignoring build quality).

 

To the purchaser of these new devices, have at it. It's all a personal choice. IMO, Boomboxery has always been about CLASSIC Boomboxes (1970's and 80's) as it's main focus. I do think Bobby (owner of Boomboxery) should start a "Bluetooth Speaker" section much like there is a "Walkman" section, "Turntable" section and so on so these devices can be debated, compared and critiqued in the right environment. IMO, these shouldn't be compared to the classics, placed into the same category as the classes and the classics shouldn't be held to their modern sound standards just as these devices shouldn't be held to the feature packed standards of the classics. They are simply different. 

 

AND....this modern stuff is CRAP!  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :rock:



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Posted 22 February 2018 - 02:14 AM

:-)

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Posted 22 February 2018 - 02:46 AM

Jimmy, the thing is that to me, it has to be a standalone device that is capable of producing music without connecting another device.  That means it MUST have a tuner.  Without a built in tuner, then the device simply doesn't function without connecting something else to it.  Just like an amplifier requires you to connect a tape deck or CD player, or tuner, or record player -- without those auxiliary devices, it is nothing.  OK, when an amplifier has it's own volume control, then it becomes an integrated amplifier.  However, if an amplifier has built in speakers, does that make it a boombox?  No.  And if that device is bluetooth capable, does it then make it a boombox?  No, it still does not.  It makes it a bluetooth speaker system.  And in truth, that is exactly what it is.  It is purposely built specifically for that purpose, and there are many devices exactly like that.  They deserve their own category where like Chris says, can be compared, reviewed and debated among themselves, oranges to oranges.  Unlike Chris however, I don't draw the line on any particular date in defining boomboxes because I still think that eggs are boomboxes, just not classic boomboxes.  

 

So why is a tuner so important to me?  Because for 45 years, it's virtually all I ever listen to.  When I grab a boombox to go, I KNOW that I'll have music even if I don't bring any cassettes or CD's or iPod, or any other recorded program.  Or I can listen to the ballgame when I'm working.  Or listen to talk radio, or what have you.  Or if the device has extra features such as cassettes, CD, line-in, whatever, I can listen to my hearts content if I have those with me.  

 

But these new devices, how can I listen to the radio?  Bring my own separate tuner?  Bring another boombox and use it's line-out to connect to this device's line-in?  How can requiring the presence of a separate boombox (and a "real" boombox, if I may argue) make any sense if the diamondbox (and similar such things) is also a boombox?  It does not and therefore, by extension, these are not boomboxes.  However, what do they do?  They amplify bluetooth audio and while I have never tried them, I surmise that they do this well, and is what they are designed for.  So let's just call them what they are.....  Amplified Bluetooth speaker systems.  Why is this name perfect?  Because they are amplifiers that REQUIRE a bluetooth connection (or other audio source) to do anything.  Just like an amplfier, without a signal source, just sits there, pretty, and produces nothing.

 

Now, have I got anything against Walkmans?  Absolutely not.  I own some, and back in the day, spent a whole lot of money on some nice ones too.  But today, I don't like being burdened with headsets so I don't use them anymore and have zero interest in them.  So I purposely do not follow the walkman forum.  But those who do can visit that forum and those topics, so everyone is happy right?  

 

So my personal feeling, and I've said this before already, is that we should create a Bluetooth speaker category.  Then everyone will be happy.  Chris, you agree?  If yes, can you and other mods maybe contact Bobby and perhaps run this by him?



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Posted 22 February 2018 - 03:07 AM

Jimmy, the thing is that to me, it has to be a standalone device that is capable of producing music without connecting another device. That means it MUST have a tuner. Without a built in tuner, then the device simply doesn't function without connecting something else to it. Just like an amplifier requires you to connect a tape deck or CD player, or tuner, or record player -- without those auxiliary devices, it is nothing. OK, when an amplifier has it's own volume control, then it becomes an integrated amplifier. However, if an amplifier has built in speakers, does that make it a boombox? No. And if that device is bluetooth capable, does it then make it a boombox? No, it still does not. It makes it a bluetooth speaker system. And in truth, that is exactly what it is. It is purposely built specifically for that purpose, and there are many devices exactly like that. They deserve their own category where like Chris says, can be compared, reviewed and debated among themselves, oranges to oranges. Unlike Chris however, I don't draw the line on any particular date in defining boomboxes because I still think that eggs are boomboxes, just not classic boomboxes.

So why is a tuner so important to me? Because for 45 years, it's virtually all I ever listen to. When I grab a boombox to go, I KNOW that I'll have music even if I don't bring any cassettes or CD's or iPod, or any other recorded program. Or I can listen to the ballgame when I'm working. Or listen to talk radio, or what have you. Or if the device has extra features such as cassettes, CD, line-in, whatever, I can listen to my hearts content if I have those with me.

But these new devices, how can I listen to the radio? Bring my own separate tuner? Bring another boombox and use it's line-out to connect to this device's line-in? How can requiring the presence of a separate boombox (and a "real" boombox, if I may argue) make any sense if the diamondbox (and similar such things) is also a boombox? It does not and therefore, by extension, these are not boomboxes. However, what do they do? They amplify bluetooth audio and while I have never tried them, I surmise that they do this well, and is what they are designed for. So let's just call them what they are..... Amplified Bluetooth speaker systems. Why is this name perfect? Because they are amplifiers that REQUIRE a bluetooth connection (or other audio source) to do anything. Just like an amplfier, without a signal source, just sits there, pretty, and produces nothing.

Now, have I got anything against Walkmans? Absolutely not. I own some, and back in the day, spent a whole lot of money on some nice ones too. But today, I don't like being burdened with headsets so I don't use them anymore and have zero interest in them. So I purposely do not follow the walkman forum. But those who do can visit that forum and those topics, so everyone is happy right?

So my personal feeling, and I've said this before already, is that we should create a Bluetooth speaker category. Then everyone will be happy. Chris, you agree? If yes, can you and other mods maybe contact Bobby and perhaps run this by him?

A Boombox is a Boombox. I get it. :-)
A BT speaker is a BT speaker. I get that too.

I think it all depends on what angle you come to this hobby. I’m personally more into the music than the machine. I always liked high end Boomboxes because they made the music sound good.

I love studying the details of vintage boxes - the stunning looks, build quality and feature count etc is very satisfying to behold.

But after another 14 hour working day, I arrive home at 8:30 pm and what do I grab for maximum musical impact?? A DIY box. Hey, I’m at home, no one is looking, no one is going to laugh at me and my garage box. :lol:

I get the love a good tuner though. I listen to ABC radio all day in the van - the Australian Broadcasting Corporation has some very interesting stuff going on - keeps my brain occupied while I do my very boring job. :-)

Incidentally, my upcoming DIY V7.0 build will have a proper FM tuner with twin telescopic antennas. :-)

I know, although it will have a tuner, it’s still not a Boombox.

I get it. :-)