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#1 Mustey

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Posted 24 September 2017 - 05:43 AM

I have a brand new, sealed Prince cassette which I was using for reference, as it was quite good quality and prince was sensitive about end user sound quality.

Anyway, I was ready to blast my Toshi today to see how it plays... But the prince tape wouldn't play!
I took a look and saw that the reels are spun tight but one real has baggy tape on the inside.

I spun the tape to see the section and it was folded in two or three! :O

This is not the first tape destroyed in this deck. I had an old A-Ha tape which was wowing a lot so when it got chewed up, I blamed it on the tape.
Now, I think there's something wrong with how my cassette player spins them in after playing the section.

Any ideas please? :(



#2 Mustey

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Posted 24 September 2017 - 06:08 AM

Otherwise, tape deck sounds fine, even the a-ha tape plays wonderfully around the middle, where it's not wrinkled. Quite good quality sound...

The prince tape is totally dead, as I've spun it all over the baggy tape and I think the creases have printed on all of the reel, as the tape looks uneven throughout. It sounds horrible :( :( :(



Yep, it's done it again! I put a brand new maxell XL II, rewound it, pushed play and "@#%$@%^", the tape is now chewed up...



#3 Mustey

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Posted 24 September 2017 - 06:19 AM

As you can see, it's starting to chew from one side. This side is the one facing towards me:

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#4 davebush

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Posted 24 September 2017 - 06:48 AM

sound like pinch problems to me



#5 Mustey

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Posted 24 September 2017 - 07:14 AM

Is there someone who fixes this kinda stuff in the south east?



#6 MyOhMy

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Posted 24 September 2017 - 08:53 AM

Tip:

Always use an old tape as a test tape before trying to play your pride & joy!  :yes:   I keep plenty of disposable tapes to hand such as wannabees who should have stayed in bed on the recording day, Cliff Richard, artists that mention 'jesus', 'praise', 'lord' etc..  I've never lost a good tape yet.  :no:



#7 Mustey

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Posted 24 September 2017 - 11:11 AM

I didn't have a disposable tape until now :(
BTW, I've read playing wrinkled tapes is bad - why?



#8 Northerner

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Posted 24 September 2017 - 12:37 PM

Yeh I have a pile of good tapes with awful music on for testing :-)

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Posted 25 September 2017 - 12:20 AM

Any ideas please? :(

 

Play a test tape for a few seconds and watch the reels, are they both moving 100% of the time, and at the same speed? Belts get loose over the years and the one for the takeup reel might be slipping and causing the sag, and the tape to bunch up.

 

The one-sided damage may just be a byproduct of this. If the tape starts to get forced into the deck because the takeup reel is misbehaving, the tape will just start to veer off on its own into the deck, passing through the capstan/tire at worse and worse angles until it starts to run off the end of the capstan pin, which would be the side nearest to you.

 

I'd also check for debris on the capstan and tire, if it's uneven it may be able to walk the tape off course.



#10 TW5

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Posted 26 September 2017 - 06:48 PM

might be too much take up torque

place it on play with no tape

and check the pull on the spindle

compare with a good deck



#11 Rimmer36

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Posted 26 September 2017 - 11:06 PM

Pinch roller 100%



#12 hopey

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Posted 30 September 2017 - 02:07 AM

Pinch roller 100%


I agree seen this before. Clean the rubber pinch roller and also check the spring is providing enough pressure on the capsan shaft.