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#31 panabox1

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Posted 23 April 2017 - 12:59 PM

I've actually demo'd these, the Silver and the Gold as I was out to buy a new set of speakers.

I wasn't particularly impressed although the bass did go pretty deep there wasn't enough 'oomph' in it, and the highs sounded harsh to my ears. Midrange was washed out because the bass and treble are vying for action.

Build quality is exceptional. The two round 'domes' you see are the subs, and when they're moving air and you put your hand on the Phantom you feel absolutely no vibrations. That I liked.

Definitely not worth the money they're asking for but the marketing is geared towards younger buyers with cash to burn. It looks good in the flesh so will appeal to that market.

Thanks for sharing. Could u tell a difference between the silver vs the gold? And what kind of speakers did you end up buying?

The difference was negligible to be honest, the gold sounded a little warmer, richer.

I ended up demo'ing 6-7 speakers ranging from Dali Speakers to the Devialets. I went for pair of Q Acoustics 3050's as they were punching well above their weight in terms of sound reproduction, bass and price. Awesome speakers.
Those q's get good reviews and for the money you can't beat them. U must live in an area where there are still high-end stores with lots of nice equipment to demo. Unfortunately with the advent of Best Buy and the like, finding high end audio to demo is becoming harder and harder. About the bass on the devialet', it's amazing how something so small can get so deep in the bass range. If that tech ever made its way to "old-Skool" boomboxes that would be AMAZING!!!!!!

#32 Nickeccles

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Posted 23 April 2017 - 04:02 PM

Audiophools :-D  :-D  :-D 



#33 JVC Floyd

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Posted 23 April 2017 - 04:16 PM

If I had those kind of funds to build a Boombox it would be a good old-fashioned poo-nanny wetter. The evil tron that would destroy all monsters.

#34 Sel The Don

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Posted 24 April 2017 - 12:20 AM

It was a toss up between the Qs and the dalis but as the price different was too great I went for the 3050s.

I actually bought them from an AV Store (called the AV Store) in Bucharest and carried them through 6 countries. There aren't many high quality AV shops around here in Turkey so whilst I was out on my tour I picked a pair up.

The Devialets do go low but I've heard better - the 3050s kick them into next week, unfortunately their small size is its limitation.

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Posted 26 April 2017 - 01:44 PM

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#36 erniejade

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Posted 28 April 2017 - 03:32 PM

I'm jumping in late to the party. The Devialet do sound darn good but, a bit $$$. I was recently in the market for speakers in my small room and wound up going with Kef LS50 Wireless with a old velodyne spl1200. A lot of companies are going with Powered speakers that have built in streaming now. I cant wait for the Klipsch Fifteen to come out. 



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Posted 28 April 2017 - 04:48 PM

Yeah I don't understand how something like this gets 3 million views :dunce: 

 



#38 KandiKlover

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Posted 28 April 2017 - 11:08 PM

Yeah I don't understand how something like this gets 3 million views :dunce:

 

 

Buy 100,000 or so from bot services or pay youtube to promote it to the front page. Ever wonder why some channels frequently on the front are completely junk? There ya go. Useless fad electronics these days lol



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Posted 29 April 2017 - 04:29 PM

I'm jumping in late to the party. The Devialet do sound darn good but, a bit $$$. I was recently in the market for speakers in my small room and wound up going with Kef LS50 Wireless with a old velodyne spl1200. A lot of companies are going with Powered speakers that have built in streaming now. I cant wait for the Klipsch Fifteen to come out.

I read those kef ls50 had EXCELLENT sound stage and separation. From what I read the devialet phantoms had more bass and a stronger punch, but I can't say for sure cause I haven't personally heard them.

I've read a review about the Phantom Silver (from the most notable HiFi-magazine in Finland). The speaker costs 2000€ here. Don't know about the Gold. Just visited their site and the power claims are a bit odd indeed.
 
The magazine titled it "A superspeaker from the future". They measured it at 105dB at the listening spot. And thats with the bass notes hitting 30Hz pretty much without attenuation. It weighs only 11 kg. Measured power usage was 16W in the stand-by and 30-120W in use. Though it seems there is no additional battery packs at all. So its not really a "portable" speaker.
 
https://store.devial...er-phantom.html
https://store.devial...ld-phantom.html


105db at 30hz is pretty darn AWESOME.

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Posted 12 May 2017 - 12:02 PM

The DiamondBoxx XL is much louder, with STEREO sound and doesn't have to plug into a wall outlet.  It can also be oriented vertically for line array performance for covering a big area with sound...for about 1/2 the price.



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Posted 12 May 2017 - 03:38 PM

That thing is uglier than a pile of poo! No $3,000 for me!😦🙁

#42 Rimmer36

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Posted 12 May 2017 - 09:59 PM

Looks like a snail shell, pass



#43 mancardo

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Posted 13 May 2017 - 01:17 AM

:lol:  :lol:  :lol:



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Posted 15 May 2017 - 06:17 PM

The DiamondBoxx XL is much louder, with STEREO sound and doesn't have to plug into a wall outlet.  It can also be oriented vertically for line array performance for covering a big area with sound...for about 1/2 the price.

can the diamondboxx xl play 30hz at 105 decibels?

#45 Reli

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Posted 15 May 2017 - 06:35 PM

I've read a review about the Phantom Silver (from the most notable HiFi-magazine in Finland). The speaker costs 2000€ here. Don't know about the Gold. Just visited their site and the power claims are a bit odd indeed.

 

The magazine titled it "A superspeaker from the future". They measured it at 105dB at the listening spot. And thats with the bass notes hitting 30Hz pretty much without attenuation. It weighs only 11 kg. Measured power usage was 16W in the stand-by and 30-120W in use. Though it seems there is no additional battery packs at all. So its not really a "portable" speaker.

 

 

LOL, so much for 3000 watts

 

 

 

Yeah I don't understand how something like this gets 3 million views :dunce:

 

 

Buy 100,000 or so from bot services or pay youtube to promote it to the front page. Ever wonder why some channels frequently on the front are completely junk? There ya go. Useless fad electronics these days lol

 

 

 

LOL, yep



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Posted 15 May 2017 - 08:22 PM

I've read a review about the Phantom Silver (from the most notable HiFi-magazine in Finland). The speaker costs 2000€ here. Don't know about the Gold. Just visited their site and the power claims are a bit odd indeed.

The magazine titled it "A superspeaker from the future". They measured it at 105dB at the listening spot. And thats with the bass notes hitting 30Hz pretty much without attenuation. It weighs only 11 kg. Measured power usage was 16W in the stand-by and 30-120W in use. Though it seems there is no additional battery packs at all. So its not really a "portable" speaker.




LOL, so much for 3000 watts


Yeah I don't understand how something like this gets 3 million views :dunce:



Buy 100,000 or so from bot services or pay youtube to promote it to the front page. Ever wonder why some channels frequently on the front are completely junk? There ya go. Useless fad electronics these days lol


LOL, yep
Do u find that same article's 105db at 30hz funny as well? I think that measurement alone is impressive in and of itself.

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Posted 15 May 2017 - 09:25 PM

That thing, in a boombox forum, titled as the world's baddest boombox ever....

 

..... definitely qualifies, no is the epitome of, "A BOOMBOX, UNCLEAR ON THE CONCEPT."



#48 panabox1

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Posted 16 May 2017 - 08:24 AM

That thing, in a boombox forum, titled as the world's baddest boombox ever....

..... definitely qualifies, no is the epitome of, "A BOOMBOX, UNCLEAR ON THE CONCEPT."

If I could do it all over again I would change the title to "IS THIS THE FUTURE OF "BOOMBOXES" — A POWERFUL BLUETOOTH SPEAKER?" The current title, it seems, is a little too ahead of its time.

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Posted 16 May 2017 - 01:36 PM

Why won't this thread just die. Its not a boombox. End of story.

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Posted 16 May 2017 - 04:40 PM

Why won't this thread just die. Its not a boombox. End of story.

Exactly.  



#51 panabox1

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Posted 17 August 2017 - 07:19 PM

For anyone who's interested, the measurements are quite impressive especially in the bass.
https://www.computer...er-review-r654/

#52 panabox1

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Posted 18 April 2019 - 09:47 AM

https://www.themaste...et-gold-phantom
They compared this to the SVS-PB16 -Ultra subwoofer.
Now that’s IMPRESSIVE.
Just wanted to share this😎

“....That’s because there’s no possible way to fake what we heard, which was some of the deepest, most unbelievable bass on the planet.

How does 4,500 watts of power grab you? These Heart Bass Implosion drivers will easily make that noise | The Master Switch

“You cannot believe – you really cannot believe – just how intense the low-end on a Gold Phantom is. This is, after all, a product that can put out 4,500 watts when it’s turned up to the maximum, and which uses woofers (bass drivers) that feel like they have more R&D behind them than tech Elon Musk is launching into orbit. The bass felt like it extended back into infinity, swamping the room with unbelievable vibration and power. We love subwoofers, but this was something else. This was an eighth of the size of an SVS PB16-Ultra subwoofer (full review here), which we consider to be the one of the best available right now, and it easily held its own.“

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Posted 18 April 2019 - 10:12 AM

4500 watts?

Let's see what the power consumption label says.....oh wait they don't give you one.

Someone contacted them and they said the 4500 is "peak", and RMS power is actually about 600



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Posted 18 April 2019 - 10:18 AM

4500 watts?
Let's see what the power consumption label says.....oh wait they don't give you one.
Someone contacted them and they said the 4500 is "peak", and RMS power is actually about 600

The wattage isn’t my concern. The sound and the decibels are. It could be 2 watts and it wouldn’t bother me in the slightest.

#55 Reli

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Posted 18 April 2019 - 11:30 AM

True, I just don't understand why companies need to come up with these ridiculous numbers.  "Because everyone else does it" isn't an excuse IMO.



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Posted 18 April 2019 - 04:41 PM

I could never spend that kind of money on something that ugly , there's no sound it could make that overcome the looks.

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Posted 18 April 2019 - 06:30 PM

Basic Electronics course?



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Posted 18 April 2019 - 08:19 PM

I had my suspicions before, but I'm now convinced that panabox is a shill helping to promote and sell these overpriced wallet thinners.  That's all he ever posts about.  And when the thread is dead, he comes back and revives it.  Could it be, he works for the company?  Owns stock in it?  Owns it?   :hmmm: I dunno....  if it walks like a duck....

 

And all those watts, to produce an "insanely loud" 105db.  So then this company needs to further boost it to FOUR THOUSAND FIVE HUNDRED WATTS (that's 4500, in case the words are hard to read) = 108db.  108db.  That's 108db for the latest version just to be clear.  And all that loudness can be yours for the price of only one kidney.  Oh and in case anyone is paying attention, the standard 120v AC receptacle is either on a 15A or 20A breaker.  Meaning, if you are on a 15A breaker, 1800 watts will trip it.  If it's a 20A breaker, then the circuit (which includes every device plugged into every other receptacle served by that breaker) is 2400 whopping watts of power before it trips.  Somehow, this miraculous device can suck 4500 frikin watts from the circuit (unplug everything else first, we need all the watts we can get) and fool the breaker into thinking that it's drawing less than 1800/2400 watts so it won't trip, and then operate at 100% efficiency so that all that precious watts sucked from the receptacle is magically transfomed into the deepest bass and the loudest you'll ever hear compared to any other speaker in the world.  Actually you got to hand it to the company.  They figured out how to "compress" 4500watts into 2400watts.  Just like winzip.  Maybe they can trademark it ACzip.

 

And even though everyone says they hate it, it's NOT a boombox, bin it, wouldn't buy it, wouldn't date it, wouldn't want to be seen with it, and please go away....  just like in the TV commercials and the adult tries to spoon feed some mush or peas (or what have you) to an unwilling toddler whose arms are cross, lips snapped shut, and head shaking, "it's good for you, it's the best, it tastes great...", here comes panabox once again, "it's the greatest thing since sliced bread, and it really sounds good, and you really should like it, trust me"....   :blink:

 

Ok, yep.  I only have 1 thing to say about that:  Look at the lower right hand corner of grill.  ONE HUNDRED & NINE friggen phantom vanquishing DB's.  Yep 109db.  And it will only cost you 39 watts input power to accomplish that.  Imagine what it could do if force fed (or if it was made to believe it was actually getting) 4500 input watts.  Wow.  If I can only imagine.  :hmmm:  Or imagine the advertising snow (con) job.

 

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Posted 18 April 2019 - 09:28 PM

I had my suspicions before, but I'm now convinced that panabox is a shill helping to promote and sell these overpriced wallet thinners. That's all he ever posts about. And when the thread is dead, he comes back and revives it. Could it be, he works for the company? Owns stock in it? Owns it? :hmmm: I dunno.... if it walks like a duck....

And all those watts, to produce an "insanely loud" 105db. So then this company needs to further boost it to FOUR THOUSAND FIVE HUNDRED WATTS (that's 4500, in case the words are hard to read) = 108db. 108db. That's 108db for the latest version just to be clear. And all that loudness can be yours for the price of only one kidney. Oh and in case anyone is paying attention, the standard 120v AC receptacle is either on a 15A or 20A breaker. Meaning, if you are on a 15A breaker, 1800 watts will trip it. If it's a 20A breaker, then the circuit (which includes every device plugged into every other receptacle served by that breaker) is 2400 whopping watts of power before it trips. Somehow, this miraculous device can suck 4500 frikin watts from the circuit (unplug everything else first, we need all the watts we can get) and fool the breaker into thinking that it's drawing less than 1800/2400 watts so it won't trip, and then operate at 100% efficiency so that all that precious watts sucked from the receptacle is magically transfomed into the deepest bass and the loudest you'll ever hear compared to any other speaker in the world. Actually you got to hand it to the company. They figured out how to "compress" 4500watts into 2400watts. Just like winzip. Maybe they can trademark it ACzip.

And even though everyone says they hate it, it's NOT a boombox, bin it, wouldn't buy it, wouldn't date it, wouldn't want to be seen with it, and please go away.... just like in the TV commercials and the adult tries to spoon feed some mush or peas (or what have you) to an unwilling toddler whose arms are cross, lips snapped shut, and head shaking, "it's good for you, it's the best, it tastes great...", here comes panabox once again, "it's the greatest thing since sliced bread, and it really sounds good, and you really should like it, trust me".... :blink:

Ok, yep. I only have 1 thing to say about that: Look at the lower right hand corner of grill. ONE HUNDRED & NINE friggen phantom vanquishing DB's. Yep 109db. And it will only cost you 39 watts input power to accomplish that. Imagine what it could do if force fed (or if it was made to believe it was actually getting) 4500 input watts. Wow. If I can only imagine. :hmmm: Or imagine the advertising snow (con) job.

109db.jpg

Why can’t u just appreciate impressive sound in such a small package without attaching an ulterior motive of some sort? That’s technology that could eventually trickle down to old school boom box territory for us enthusiasts. I wish more on here would talk about it. It would only help our cause. U seem very set in your ways and closed to new technology. U also are focusing on the wrong thing: the power rating. Try focusing more on its performance, the review that compare it to massive home subwoofers and try to appreciate that. A future boom box (old school style) utilizing this technology.

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Posted 19 April 2019 - 12:08 AM

You just don't get it.  That's NOT a boombox as far as the definition for which this forum caters to.  It's like trying to sell an imported 4-banger to a bunch of american muscle hot rod guys.  It's just not our thing.  As for integrating new technology into old school sets, that IS something that many of us are interested in, and doing.  If you don't know this, then you aren't paying that close attention.  Most of us are middle class working folk that have limited budget and collect $50 - $300 stuff, perhaps an occassional $700 splurge for a few of our more well-to-do members.  But make no mistake, it's more than just ear deafening sound that we are into.  It's the whole thing... the all-in-one tuner/cassette/aux/speakers(pref stereo), and aesthetics are important.  By aesthetics, there's no question that most of us will be drawn to the classic styling and although there are bejeweled decorated egg collectors in the world, I don't think you're going to find ONE soul here that will find something that looks like a polished dinosaur egg palatable, no matter how bassy it gets.  If that's your thing, that's fine, and you shared it years ago and I don't recall anyone here falling heads over heels over it.  And then there's the marketing crap.  Some of us knows about electricity and watts.  I have a Marantz 2500 receiver and it's rated at 250 watts/channel.  The power cord is as thick as your finger and stiff as freak, for 250wpc.  I also have a Carver PT-2400 power amp.  It is rated at 750wpc x2.  And it has IEC power sockets.  You know, the kind used on equipment that sucks huge amounts of power.  And you'll notice that I said socket(s).  Yep, for the rated power, it requires TWO power cords, and each requires it's own circuit.  That's how much input power is needed to output 750wpc x2.  So 4500 watts?  Does it plug into a range or welder receptacle with thumb sized cables?  If not, that suggests that the $3k cost of that egg is probably $2800 marketing-BS/profit, and $200 speaker.  If it sounds great and costs $200, and maybe advertised at it's (probably) more true 50-100 watts, it might get better reception.  Your speaker promotion (not boombox) is not the only device that gets pushback here, there are other bluetooth speakers that are insanely loud, portable, and more boombox "looking" than that egg, and they get pushback too.  Lets just say in a monster truck 4-wheeling magazine, there's very few advertisements for Toyota Corolla or Ferrari accessories, and for good reason.  It's the wrong crowd.