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#61 BoomboxLover48

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Posted 19 September 2015 - 08:11 AM

Caution, Do you think it will make it more better to have a matte clear coat over it when it is all done? That would lessen the glare from the shiny metal and protect the lettering over it. 

 

You are so talented! 



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Posted 21 September 2015 - 10:18 AM

Thanks bud! That's a good question, I'm not sure. I sort of like it all shiny, but I'm not sure how much of a mirror it is, I could start blinding people walking around with it on a sunny day

EDIT: I forgot to mention - the guy that made these for me showed me how durable the paint becomes over time by scratching on some, it's very durable and does not require a protective coating.

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Posted 22 September 2015 - 02:28 AM

Wow. That's amazing caution. Good on you for taking the time to get this just right. Have you got a source for the dry transfer - i only need the lower tape door ?



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Posted 22 September 2015 - 10:01 AM

You bet, I've created dry transfers for all four pieces, but I'm still working on bending them, I don't want apply graphics to them and then screw up the bends and have to start all over. It's extra tricky because the metal is a third thicker and much harder (stainless vs. aluminum) so I may have to look for something more workable. 28 gauge brushed aluminum isn't easy to find.



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Posted 20 October 2015 - 02:10 AM

I got the dry transfers for the other two pieces!

 

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My first attempt at bending the door piece taught me that bending the little tabs I made kept the sides from bending straight, so I ended up with a pillowy looking bend. Boo.

 

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So, I ground those off for the second one, but I forgot that you must compensate for the thickness of the metal in your scribe line, so I had to go the opposite direction on the other side to balance it out...

 

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It lines up and would work fine, but when you look closer, I had peeled off the protective plastic too soon and the bending brake scuffed it. So now I know what not to do for the next batch :-)

 

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I tried to bend one of the deck trims but it popped out of the brake half-bent, so I'm going to take some advice from a sheet metal forum and have them re-made with a bit more extra material on that edge so I have something to grab. With the thicker metal I'll have to go about halfway into the bend for the right depth.



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Posted 21 October 2015 - 07:04 AM

Nice job Caution. i think i've got a pinch roller that sounds like a dragonfly on another deck !



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Posted 21 October 2015 - 07:51 AM

Man, great work.

 

You have way too much wasted material on that dry transfer page. I know you put the border of the actual piece the text will be transferred too, but you could fit so many more pairs of transfers on one page.



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Posted 21 October 2015 - 08:33 AM

WOW, absolutely amazing work.

 

What a thread. Bummer I missed this all this time. I don't have a C-100 so I guess it slipped through my radar.

 

This is the top of the top right here.

 

We're not far from case manufacturing now  :w00t:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:

 

Great work  :yes:



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Posted 22 October 2015 - 08:01 PM

Thanks CSI! Well you know all these units eventually have bugs you gotta work out :-D

 

Man, great work.

 

You have way too much wasted material on that dry transfer page. I know you put the border of the actual piece the text will be transferred too, but you could fit so many more pairs of transfers on one page.

 

Thanks man! Yeah, I might have to pay for a new screen but that's ok. I may compress the text for these two together even more since it wouldn't be hard to line it up well enough. It would be nice to have extra letters for touchups too.

 

Actually the guy messed up my order, all eight were supposed to be on one big screen. He mailed these to me later, and probably made a second smaller screen for them. He forgot about these when I sent him updated files for the first two. He suggested I remove the outlines for the cutouts. We even worked through how doing all of them on the next larger sized screen would save money. I didn't notice when I picked them up either, I even looked at it! :bang: Super easy to work with though and honest as they come, he made them right away no charge.

 

WOW, absolutely amazing work.

 

What a thread. Bummer I missed this all this time. I don't have a C-100 so I guess it slipped through my radar.

 

This is the top of the top right here.

 

We're not far from case manufacturing now  :w00t:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:

 

Great work  :yes:

 

 

Aww thanks Chris I appreciate that! Hah, yeah I'm thinking soon we'll be able to recreate just about anything as soon as hi-def 3D scanning gets a lil cheaper.



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Posted 17 February 2016 - 06:12 PM

Caution, this is an amazing thread. Sent you a PM!👍

#71 JustCruisin

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Posted 17 February 2016 - 08:43 PM

I can't believe I've never seen this topic! Maybe cuz it's in Tech Talk! :lol:
Great job, keep it up! You sir, are going that extra mile and then some! :thumbsup:

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Posted 17 February 2016 - 09:17 PM

Such a REAL dedication here!!!

Speechless...

Cheers.

#73 howie1976

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Posted 17 February 2016 - 09:22 PM

This should be Pinned!!!!!!😎👍

#74 SLO

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Posted 17 February 2016 - 11:39 PM

I had never seen this thread either until I got my Helix, I guess I never had reason to search for this topic because I didn't own one, but dam Eric, you really do some amazing sh*t! Much respect brother



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Posted 04 April 2016 - 08:59 PM

Holy Crappola!  Absolutely amazing work, Caution! :clap:



#76 Lasonic TRC-920

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Posted 13 June 2017 - 02:02 PM

OK, So, when can I lay down some cash on a set? :yes:



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Posted 15 June 2017 - 09:53 AM

I'm picking up some of the three smaller pieces from the shop today. They used material *I* supplied, which is aluminum this time (not stainless steel!) and is only a couple mils thicker than the original Conion trims, so I'm hoping I'll be able to bend them properly.

 

The lettering though, well, I'm not doing dry transfer again. If you don't apply them within a couple weeks of getting them they will dry out and fail to transfer completely. Even when they are good they take too much time fussing around with letters that didn't transfer right. And if you push too hard the letters distort. I want to do quite a few of these, so I have to figure out how to silkscreen them, either by myself or an outside place.



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Posted 15 June 2017 - 10:43 AM

This is a game changing thread, don't know how I missed this one

#79 Lasonic TRC-920

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Posted 15 June 2017 - 02:07 PM

I'm picking up some of the three smaller pieces from the shop today. They used material *I* supplied, which is aluminum this time (not stainless steel!) and is only a couple mils thicker than the original Conion trims, so I'm hoping I'll be able to bend them properly.

 

The lettering though, well, I'm not doing dry transfer again. If you don't apply them within a couple weeks of getting them they will dry out and fail to transfer completely. Even when they are good they take too much time fussing around with letters that didn't transfer right. And if you push too hard the letters distort. I want to do quite a few of these, so I have to figure out how to silkscreen them, either by myself or an outside place.

 

Count me in for a front panel set when they get worked out. And thank you for the countless hours you have already invested. Really over the top work.



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Posted 20 June 2017 - 03:44 PM

Well, it looks like I'll have to live with dry transfer, given how much it would cost to get everything in place to screen them at home. The surface will be a bit rougher this time and will apply them as soon as they arrive.

 

Apparently people have had good luck using a Scotch Brite pad vs. sandpaper so I'll try that. Still waiting to hear if my smaller layout for the lot of 10 pieces (with some extras for screwups) will work being jammed so tight, or if I have to pay an extra $20 for the next larger size.

 

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Posted 20 June 2017 - 07:01 PM

:w00t:  :w00t:     :-D



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Posted 20 June 2017 - 07:59 PM

That's incredible.  It's like watching brand new C100's in the making.



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Posted 21 June 2017 - 07:29 AM

That dry transfer is PACKED! hahaha - good stuff man.



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Posted 06 July 2017 - 10:31 AM

Got the dry transfers but they're white. D'ohhh. By the time I noticed he already had a corrected copy in the mail, haha.

So, if anyone wants to add C-100F lettering to something dark, I can help you :lol:

 

The door and tray trims came out great, but I gave up trying to get the deck trims consistent, with those holes in it. Conion stamped these originally, so they still wouldn't look 100% if I brushed them before cutting, the laser leaves marks that have to be removed anyway. The warped edging around the edit button is also impossible without stamping.

 

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Posted 07 July 2017 - 07:57 AM

Just INSANE!!!   :drool:  :hooray:  :hooray:



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Posted 07 July 2017 - 02:12 PM

The brushed metal look is THE BUSINESS! Fantastic work.

 

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Posted 08 July 2017 - 01:34 AM

oh man.....INSANITY

 

Just the parts I need

 

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Posted 10 July 2017 - 02:26 PM

Caution, Do you think it will make it more better to have a matte clear coat over it when it is all done? That would lessen the glare from the shiny metal and protect the lettering over it. 

 

You are so talented! 

 

Royce the original pieces on these were not coated with anything, both units I have were damaged by moisture and it's obvious. If you have a C100F and an M-X920, compare them, Sanyo used a clearcoat on their panel.

 

I am definitely going to need to clearcoat it with something, the dry transfers for the thin lettering is too fragile, some of the letters almost just sitting on these pieces right now, so I must lock them down with a clearcoat. I have read some feedback from other sites and there is a lot of variation in durability, clearness, hazing, and so on and so forth, but I wasn't expecting to have to do this actually, and since I do not have a place to spray, I'm not sure when these will be done. Maybe never.

 

This took all of Sunday

 

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Posted 11 July 2017 - 10:31 AM

Those pieces look so damn good. I wonder why the transfer is so fragile after it is applied, maybe the metal isn't clean enough? Either way, nice work.



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Posted 11 July 2017 - 10:37 AM

I think it comes down to sheer size, the door trim font is so small that there just isn't enough adhesion present in the lacquer to hold it down.

 

I'm double-cleaning the trims before I apply them, first with 99% isopropyl alcohol and then an acetone wipedown right before I lay down the tape to start transferring.

 

A ray of hope is that the larger lettering for the tray trims sticks down much, much better.