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#1 caution

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Posted 26 June 2015 - 11:40 AM

Finally got the last trim spec done, threw it to the cutter last night and the sample fell right on the box, but will have to take a closer look tonight to make sure everything lines up 100%.

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Posted 26 June 2015 - 12:05 PM

Daaaaang. Can't wait to see a finished one.



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Posted 26 June 2015 - 11:23 PM

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Finally got the last trim spec done, threw it to the cutter last night and the sample fell right on the box, but will have to take a closer look tonight to make sure everything lines up 100%.

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sweet!

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Posted 27 June 2015 - 09:45 AM

I've been using an old road atlas for paper stock since they're big enough.

Themed clings for your boxes :-)

 

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Posted 27 June 2015 - 11:14 AM

When does production start Mr Caution. !
I'm in more some of those!
This is a huge help to the family..
I want the Confederate flag! lol

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Posted 27 June 2015 - 02:53 PM

nice



#7 oldskool69

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Posted 27 June 2015 - 03:45 PM

I've been using an old road atlas for paper stock since they're big enough.

Themed clings for your boxes :-)

 

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Wow!!! Simply wow!!! :clap:  :clap: :clap:  



#8 jimmyjimmy19702010

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Posted 27 June 2015 - 04:45 PM

Wouldn't GPS be easier? :-)

#9 caution

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Posted 29 June 2015 - 01:39 PM

Haha jimmy :-)

Vintage Man it shouldn't be long now, almost perfected the dimensions, I must've cut out a dozen samples this weekend going through various positional/size tweaks, it has to fit dead nuts just about, the trim does not have much room for error, it's looking great now but may make a couple more adjustments still. The time is now to get it right, instead of later when you've already got them made :-)

 

The smaller piece dropped right down, nothing to fix :rock:

 

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Posted 29 June 2015 - 10:08 PM

Just awesome...

#11 stragulus

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Posted 02 July 2015 - 01:49 PM

Super cool! Is your goal to have one made from brushed aluminum once you get it right?



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Posted 02 July 2015 - 02:34 PM

You bet it is! I just refreshed all four drawings on the forum threads, all tweaked, added unbent versions to help clarity, and a bunch of tiny things here and there. They've been sent off to a local shop recommended to me, we'll see what they quote me. I told them I'm interested in doing a batch of them to save costs, so I'll probably end up with some to sell off to others in need.



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Posted 02 July 2015 - 08:09 PM

Very interesting. What about the lettering on them? How would you add that?



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Posted 02 July 2015 - 09:59 PM

I'm going to use DC Silkscreening, I asked them if they could work with these after being bent into shape and they said no problem.

 

I still have a ways to go. The font is Roman Helvetica Bold (Futura Medium on the tape door) but the spacing and style are a tiny bit different, not sure I really care that much, I may do a bit more hunting for the correct variant. For example, the S in "MUSIC" has a smaller top part.

 

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Posted 03 July 2015 - 10:53 AM

WhatTheFont says it's Berthold Standard BQ Regular. Does seem to match indeed, including the S. 



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Posted 03 July 2015 - 01:08 PM

Thanks for taking a look. I'm going crosseyed comparing styles. Unfortunately it's the S for the other font (Futura) I have a problem with.



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Posted 15 July 2015 - 10:54 PM

Found a place! The unit price for a two-set order is $54.80 and a run of ten is $32.30. And when I say set I mean all four pieces. I'm going to place the shorter order tomorrow.

 

They'll use a 26 gauge brushed stainless (T304 #4) which is a few mils thicker than the original but should make for better dent/scratch resistance. They can do bending too but said these are too tight. The 1mm bends on the tray and button trim are gonna be tough.



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Posted 16 July 2015 - 09:02 AM

My mailing address hasn't changed.  :w00t:  ;-)  :-P  :thumbsup:



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Posted 16 July 2015 - 09:07 AM

Cooooool.



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Posted 16 July 2015 - 09:36 AM

WOW you are the man cant wait to see it all come together

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Posted 24 July 2015 - 08:57 PM

Wow Norm that's so nice of you to offer to bend them :-)

They called today, very happy with the outcome. The double-stick tape wasn't holding them down 100% but they are dead-on :rock:

 

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Posted 28 July 2015 - 02:28 PM

Finished the graphics! After hours and days of comparing font after font, I ended up using Helvetica CE, which was free and actually matched quite well.

 

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Posted 28 July 2015 - 07:42 PM

To get 'er done I used a few things. First I bought a scanner at Goodwill for $7 and hooked it up to an old XP box (no newer drivers!!) and scanned the trims.

 

After doing some very minor rotations on the images to line them up perfectly, I needed to vectorize them for use in CAD. Not so much as a direct copy, but rather a guide to where to place the new text and graphics. First I tweaked on the contrast and brightness to make the text stand out from the gray background:

 

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Then I loaded the image into Inkscape, a free tool that cutter plotter owners rant and rave about. It will trace bitmaps and text, which can then be saved as a DXF.

 

After I converted all the required characters, I merged them with the converted scans and mechanical drawing. I had to bring in the scan in three pieces, they all converted a bit differently so it looks a bit messy in some areas where they overlap. In many cases I improved on the original placement.

 

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The spacing between the letters was all over the map, so I would line up a word vertically best I could and then drag the letters left and right until they matched.



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Posted 28 July 2015 - 09:26 PM

The quality of the new metal is just so far superior to the original! You really need to replace all panels to get it all to match.

Well done on your extensive work so far. Pity I don't have a C100 to upgrade. :-)

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Posted 29 July 2015 - 06:45 PM

You mean these panels? :-) I'm replacing them too if I can find a good bender :-)

 

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Posted 30 July 2015 - 10:55 AM

That's looking really good!  :yes:



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Posted 30 July 2015 - 11:44 AM

Just joined this forum and am very impressed to see the work you've done Caution. I've got a Conion CF100 with the broken tape door. i've got the mechanism but it missing its spring, perspex and the trim panel with the graphics. Would be great to replace, trouble is mine is unusal in that it's in a brushed brass / gold colour. Is there a chance you might be able to get one done to match (can always supply you with a sample of the colour) ?



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Posted 30 July 2015 - 12:42 PM

Thanks CSI I appreciate the feedback. Any laser shop worth their salt should be able to cut whatever you want. Whether or not they stock brushed brass is the question. You might have to supply the material if they can't get it. Not sure yet if this 26 gauge stainless I used can even be bent 1mm from the edge, might have to start over with 28 gauge aluminum. It was not available from the shop I used but I'm sure it could be found.

 

Do you know if the other trims you have are really brass? I'm thinking it's aluminum like the other units, but has been "iridited" with a yellow chromate. We used to do this to aluminum when I worked in a shop.



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Posted 30 July 2015 - 10:29 PM

Pretty sure he is talking about the rarer "gold" c-100.

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Posted 31 July 2015 - 12:19 AM

Yeah, I've never seen one I have no idea what the gold color is from.

I'm taking the pieces to the silkscreen shop tomorrow.

Solved the last remaining roadblock by purchasing a 12" pan and box brake today. :-D