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#61 mellymelsr

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Posted 12 September 2012 - 09:19 PM

You guys are outrageous :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
And I am right :blush: ;-)


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Posted 12 September 2012 - 09:58 PM

If I'm not mistaken doesn't JVC make a RC 550 with white or gray speakers???!!
So why do some of you think that it is completely outrageous that a M-90 would have grey speakers with yellow VU meters!

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#63 BoomboxLover48

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Posted 12 September 2012 - 10:10 PM

Now what is causing the milky white/gray appearance of the JVC M90 blue cone paper woofer?

Over time if the coating is not good enough, it can degrade and cause it to "blush," or have a cloudy white haze.

Paper is very porous and I am pretty sure they might have used a sealer coating before they used a urethane top coat over it. I believe the polymer degradation over time is the real cause of losing the clarity of the coating that gives the haze. If it is exposed direct sunlight then there are more chances of UV degradation of this coating and it will not be always uniform.

JVC speaker manufacturers might have improved the urethane coating on newer M90s that still stays clear without haze. This is why we have seen many of them with the blue cones. If you check teh back side of the cones they all are blue in color, So two different speaker coatings went on these speakers and one version was the better coating.

This is my thoery :yes: :yes:



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#64 BMoney

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Posted 12 September 2012 - 10:12 PM

If you created a meter that would measure clipping, would you pick 2 colors with low contrast like white & yellow? Ever seen a tachometer for a car with no redline, but yellowline instead?

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Posted 12 September 2012 - 11:00 PM

If you created a meter that would measure clipping, would you pick 2 colors with low contrast like white & yellow? Ever seen a tachometer for a car with no redline, but yellowline instead?



Nope!

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#66 Lasonic TRC-920

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Posted 13 September 2012 - 12:21 AM

Lasonic, Van Halen graphics?


:-D :yes: :yes: :yes: :yes:

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Posted 13 September 2012 - 03:09 AM

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#68 stormsven

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Posted 13 September 2012 - 06:41 AM

If you created a meter that would measure clipping, would you pick 2 colors with low contrast like white & yellow? Ever seen a tachometer for a car with no redline, but yellowline instead?

:agree: . Was thinking the same. There is no logic at all to make yellow overload area. Use to work with lot of sound equipment and never saw yellow for the overload area :nonono: . Here are some examples of faded watches as well.
I dont care about m90 and yellow VU's anyway. But physical laws are present , like em or not :-P .
And there is no "yellow" versions of those watches for sure :-D .




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#69 tshorba

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Posted 13 September 2012 - 07:51 AM

:hmmm:

That's what I thought too but I am guessing it is a prototype that was photographed for the ad :yes:


Does this statement above not disprove the validity of basing your opinion on the brochure image

I have never seen a pic of an M90 in a sales brochure with yellow meters ;-) .


Regardless a red meter would have to fade through a few shades of orange first before turning yellow.
Here is a JVC example of a meter with yellow


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Posted 13 September 2012 - 08:28 AM

If you created a meter that would measure clipping, would you pick 2 colors with low contrast like white & yellow? Ever seen a tachometer for a car with no redline, but yellowline instead?

:agree: . Was thinking the same. There is no logic at all to make yellow overload area. Use to work with lot of sound equipment and never saw yellow for the overload area :nonono: . Here are some examples of faded watches as well.
I dont care about m90 and yellow VU's anyway. But physical laws are present , like em or not :-P .
And there is no "yellow" versions of those watches for sure :-D .




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^ This isn't a good comparison because that needle is coated with "glow-in-the-dark" material so it would fade way different then the VU meter print ink. Plus that needle faded back to it's original color from orange. Glow coatings start out that lime color then get dyed to the colors they want to use.

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Posted 13 September 2012 - 08:59 AM

Well, whatever :lol:

Physical laws cannot be changed :yes: .
Red is the color that fades the fastest in sunlight.
We have also all seen faded speakers which were originally black turn light grey (see multiple GF777s for example).
Now why should it be different with the M90? Cause JVC uses everlasting ink? :lol:

I could be wrong though and JVC released a pre-faded version as a special edition called "Future M90" :lol: :lol: :lol:

Anyway, anybody who owns an M90 - faded out, not faded or with yellow, purple or blue VU meters - can consider themselves lucky.

I may throw in that the GF9000 - as Bobby stated in another thread - is the most famous example of fading red in the VU meters.

So damn, stop all the debating and crank up your M90s :lol: :lol: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

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Posted 13 September 2012 - 10:01 AM

I'm surprised no one from here has put up a super rare M90 with yellow meters and gray / black woofers on eBay yet. You know something that rare and special would go for thousands of dollars. :yes:

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Posted 13 September 2012 - 10:19 AM

I'm surprised no one from here has put up a super rare M90 with yellow meters and gray / black woofers on eBay yet. You know something that rare and special would go for thousands of dollars. :yes:

My yellow metered M90 sold for $2650.

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Posted 13 September 2012 - 10:32 AM

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
This thread is laughable. :-)
Let's just close the subject and we all believe what we want to believe :yes: .
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Posted 13 September 2012 - 12:16 PM

If you created a meter that would measure clipping, would you pick 2 colors with low contrast like white & yellow? Ever seen a tachometer for a car with no redline, but yellowline instead?

:agree: . Was thinking the same. There is no logic at all to make yellow overload area. Use to work with lot of sound equipment and never saw yellow for the overload area :nonono: . Here are some examples of faded watches as well.
I dont care about m90 and yellow VU's anyway. But physical laws are present , like em or not :-P .
And there is no "yellow" versions of those watches for sure :-D .




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Actually you are wrong here. The painted in red part have no lume coat . It is a non coated with lume frame , just painted in red :yes: .
Im really familiar with those :yes:


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#76 mmcodomino

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Posted 13 September 2012 - 12:48 PM

They all came with red VUs and blue woofers

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#77 mellymelsr

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Posted 13 September 2012 - 01:45 PM

They all came with red VUs and blue woofers

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:lol: :lol: :lol:


WRONG...deal withn that!!.... :dunce: :lol:

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Posted 13 September 2012 - 01:53 PM

Let's just close the subject and we all believe what we want to believe



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#79 mmcodomino

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Posted 13 September 2012 - 02:04 PM

Let's just close the subject and we all believe what we want to believe



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Posted 13 September 2012 - 02:14 PM

Let's just close the subject and we all believe what we want to believe



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#81 Fatdog

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Posted 13 September 2012 - 02:39 PM

Believe it... or not.

Here is the inquiry that I sent to JVC:

I have a question regarding the JVC RC-M90 boombox from the early 1980s, and I'm hoping there is someone who can, or is willing to, help me.

Were there any RC-M90 boomboxes ever manufactured with yellow ink for the "hot zone" in the analog VU meter and gray/black speakers?

Every VU meter I've seen on old JVC RC-M boomboxes used red ink for the "hot zone" and had blue speakers, but there are some folks stating that the yellow version was a factory option and is much rarer. I tend to believe that the red ink simply faded over 25+ years to it's yellow coloring.

Thank you for your time and help.


Regards,
Bobby Jenkins


And here is the response I finally received:

Dear Mr. Jenkins,

Thank you for contacting JVC Customer Care. My name is Veronica, your email care specialist. We value you as a JVC customer and appreciate the opportunity to be of assistance.

After reviewing data on all the models, none seems to appear to have ever had the yellow ink for the hot zone. The models that we released were RC-M50, RC-M60, RC-M70, RC-M80, RC-M90, RC-M105. We do apologize for any inconvenience that this may have caused.

If we can be of further assistance, please let us know at customerrelations(at)jvc.com or by phone at 1-800-252-5722. Our hours of operation are Monday through Friday 8AM to 8PM, Saturday 8AM to 5PM or Sunday 9AM to 4:00PM.


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Posted 13 September 2012 - 02:50 PM

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Who is the one to be sent to school now? :angelic:

Thanks for clarifying this once and for all, Bobby :smooch: :thumbsup:

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Posted 13 September 2012 - 02:53 PM

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Posted 13 September 2012 - 02:59 PM

Ich würde nicht zu früh feiern, Max.

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Posted 13 September 2012 - 03:06 PM

Ich würde nicht zu früh feiern, Max. Ich bin mir sicher, dass einige immer noch nicht glauben.


Seriously...if asking JVC is not proof enough... :dunce:

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#86 Mrs. Fatdog

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Posted 13 September 2012 - 03:30 PM

Credit where credit is due. It was the Mrs. Fatdog that said 'why don't you email JVC and ask them? They are still around and probably have records."

True enough, he did it, but it was my idea :-/

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Posted 13 September 2012 - 03:34 PM

dont mean to be insulting ...

but this is a totally NON-conclusive JVC blow-you-off ,,,, quickie // cursory review -- :dunce: :thumbsdown:

and sweet little veronica is prolly a high school trainee -
with no clue and no interest at researching any discontinued product details............

so --this tiny matter has now been infected with inaccurate information :nonono:

there MAY be one JVC employee entrusted with the wordwide corporate archives-
... but she aint it !!!

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Posted 13 September 2012 - 03:38 PM

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Posted 13 September 2012 - 03:40 PM

dont mean to be insulting ...

but this is a totally NON-conclusive JVC blow-you-off ,,,, quickie // cursory review -- :dunce: :thumbsdown:

and sweet little veronica is prolly a high school trainee -
with no clue and no interest at researching any discontinued product details............

so --this tiny matter has now been infected with inaccurate information :nonono:

there MAY be one JVC employee entrusted with the wordwide corporate archives-
... but she aint it !!!


Oh come on already :-/

I stick to my point...show me one pic of an M90 from the 80s or an original JVC ad with a yellow-metered M90 and I am happy to believe you.

As far as of now the evidence is clear. Physical laws and a statement from JVC themselves!

Face it, the myth of yellow VUs on a M90 is
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Posted 13 September 2012 - 03:41 PM

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