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#1 =ml=

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Posted 12 September 2012 - 01:22 AM

Is this an authentic Victor M90 colorway or just faded VUs and radio dial: :huh:

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#2 Superduper

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Posted 12 September 2012 - 01:46 AM

It's authentic. M90's came with yellow and red meters. However, orange meters are probably faded red.

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Posted 12 September 2012 - 03:18 AM

It's authentic. M90's came with yellow and red meters. However, orange meters are probably faded red.


Ya, right :lol: . That's why the blue speakers are almost faded to white too :lol: .
I have never seen a pic of an M90 in a sales brochure with yellow meters ;-) .
The original Japanese ad for the M90 shows one with blue speakers and red VUs. I am sure that's how they came. :yes:

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Posted 12 September 2012 - 04:05 AM

The original Japanese ad for the M90 shows one with blue speakers and red VUs. I am sure that's how they came. :yes:


can I see this ad somewhere?

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Posted 12 September 2012 - 04:36 AM

The original Japanese ad for the M90 shows one with blue speakers and red VUs. I am sure that's how they came. :yes:


can I see this ad somewhere?


There you go:


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Posted 12 September 2012 - 04:43 AM

Is it me or do the chrome caps in this ad look bigger than they actually are? :hmmm:

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Posted 12 September 2012 - 04:47 AM

Is it me or do the chrome caps in this ad look bigger than they actually are? :hmmm:


That's what I thought too but I am guessing it is a prototype that was photographed for the ad :yes:

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Posted 12 September 2012 - 05:01 AM

Wicked!!

I found two others (since I'm new to this forum you might already know them...):

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Posted 12 September 2012 - 06:05 AM

my original m90 has red , the other i got from the pawn shop has yellow meters so i know they came with 2 different options or whatever.

my original my has nice dark speakers ,and the one from the pawn shop has gray speakers so there must be 2 options or variants there as well , even though both sets are the same blue color on the back of the cones.

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Posted 12 September 2012 - 06:37 AM

my original m90 has red , the other i got from the pawn shop has yellow meters so i know they came with 2 different options or whatever.

my original my has nice dark speakers ,and the one from the pawn shop has gray speakers so there must be 2 options or variants there as well , even though both sets are the same blue color on the back of the cones.



The red and blue fade because of the sun and humidity. They all came with red meters and blue cones originally. :yes:

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Posted 12 September 2012 - 07:23 AM

There were 2 versions like Norm said


Red VU with blue woofers
Yellow VU with gray woofers

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Posted 12 September 2012 - 07:53 AM

Yellow M-90

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Posted 12 September 2012 - 08:00 AM

There were 2 versions like Norm said


Red VU with blue woofers
Yellow VU with gray woofers



:hmmm: mine has red VU with black woofers.
The woofers are much darker than the grey and
im certain not a faded blue???

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Posted 12 September 2012 - 08:00 AM

:hmmm: , i never knew this :-O .

I thought the yellowish/orangey M90 VU meters were like that from FADING :lol: ...because that's what it looks like to me. I only like the RED VU meters on my M90's :thumbsup:

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Posted 12 September 2012 - 08:04 AM

yikes :dunce: :dunce:

once i had that version with the grey woofs --thought there were just faded - :hmmm:
so i painted them blue
:thumbsdown: :annoyed: : :dunce: :dunce: :lol:

luckily --nobody reads my posts --so noboidy will ever know :-D

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Posted 12 September 2012 - 09:00 AM

I think the yellow meters are the rarer of the two. :yes:


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Posted 12 September 2012 - 09:01 AM

Guys...stop all that BS :lol:

ALL M90 woofers are blue from the back which proves that they were originally blue and just faded :thumbsdown: .
The best example is bredgeo's ex-M90 which is now with Zippy. One speaker is faded and one isn't.

Quod erat demonstrandum.

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Posted 12 September 2012 - 09:40 AM

Bull :lol:


There are 2 different versions. Why are there no gray woofs on the M90s with red VUs???? And why no blue woofs on the M90s with yellow VUs????

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Posted 12 September 2012 - 09:45 AM

I think I will take take the word and expertise of a collector like Norm over someone who just started collecting... :-D ....Norm is correct. :yes:...it also appears the strip on the radio dial is gray as well. Plus I seriously doubt the fading would be perfectly uniform unless the M90 was outside laying on its back all day... :lol:

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Posted 12 September 2012 - 09:54 AM

Meters don't just fade from red to yellow with no shades in between. Also, when have you ever seem any meter all faded as commonly as you find them on M90's. Also, sure, it's possible for blue woofers to fade from blue to lighter shade of blue. But how do blue woofers fade to dark gray or black? Excuse me.... FADE.... Hellooooo?

You need to understand the M90 speaker construction which is different than other speakers. Sure all M90 speakers are blue from the backside. But JVC's own advertising states that the M90 uses new Urethane laminated cones. But only the front of the speaker cones were laminated. The backside remains paper just like on the M70. That means the front of the speaker cones have a layer of urethane attached in some way. Was this color clear or gray or black? Maybe all of the above were used. In fact I think that dark gray is far more common than blue on the M90.

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Posted 12 September 2012 - 09:56 AM

Meters don't just fade from red to yellow with no shades in between. Also, when have you ever seem any meter all faded as commonly as you find them on M90's. Also, sure, it's possible for blue woofers to fade from blue to lighter shade of blue. But how do blue woofers fade to dark gray or black? Excuse me.... FADE.... Hellooooo?

You need to understand the M90 speaker construction which is different than other speakers. Sure all M90 speakers are blue from the backside. But JVC's own advertising states that the M90 uses new Urethane laminated cones. But only the front of the speaker cones were laminated. The backside remains paper just like on the M70. That means the front of the speaker cones have a layer of urethane attached in some way. Was this color clear or gray or black? Maybe all of the above were used. In fact I think that dark gray is far more common than blue on the M90.


...I think someone has just been taken to school... :lol:

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Posted 12 September 2012 - 09:58 AM

I think I will take take the word and expertise of a collector like Norm over someone who just started collecting... :-D ....Norm is correct. :yes:...it also appears the strip on the radio dial is gray as well. Plus I seriously doubt the fading would be perfectly uniform unless the M90 was outside laying on its back all day... :lol:

Ha. That's what i was thinkin! Damn kids think they know it all :lol:

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Posted 12 September 2012 - 09:59 AM

Meters don't just fade from red to yellow with no shades in between. Also, when have you ever seem any meter all faded as commonly as you find them on M90's. Also, sure, it's possible for blue woofers to fade from blue to lighter shade of blue. But how do blue woofers fade to dark gray or black? Excuse me.... FADE.... Hellooooo?

You need to understand the M90 speaker construction which is different than other speakers. Sure all M90 speakers are blue from the backside. But JVC's own advertising states that the M90 uses new Urethane laminated cones. But only the front of the speaker cones were laminated. The backside remains paper just like on the M70. That means the front of the speaker cones have a layer of urethane attached in some way. Was this color clear or gray or black? Maybe all of the above were used. In fact I think that dark gray is far more common than blue on the M90.


...I think someone has just been taken to school... :lol:

Ha!
Its ok max...I thought I knew everything when I was 21 too :lol:

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Posted 12 September 2012 - 10:00 AM

Meters don't just fade from red to yellow with no shades in between. Also, when have you ever seem any meter all faded as commonly as you find them on M90's. Also, sure, it's possible for blue woofers to fade from blue to lighter shade of blue. But how do blue woofers fade to dark gray or black? Excuse me.... FADE.... Hellooooo?

You need to understand the M90 speaker construction which is different than other speakers. Sure all M90 speakers are blue from the backside. But JVC's own advertising states that the M90 uses new Urethane laminated cones. But only the front of the speaker cones were laminated. The backside remains paper just like on the M70. That means the front of the speaker cones have a layer of urethane attached in some way. Was this color clear or gray or black? Maybe all of the above were used. In fact I think that dark gray is far more common than blue on the M90.


...I think someone has just been taken to school... :lol:


:lol: I've audited that class a few times and found the instructor does have a very good grasp of the topic. :yes:

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Posted 12 September 2012 - 10:11 AM

Whatever, guys :D

Funny how nobody answered about bredgeo's M90 :)

I have only seen two M90s with black speakers. Either repainted or not factory.
My M90's woofers are grey too but I face it and don't betray myself into thinking it is oh-so-mint.
These units age with pride and it's ok if they fade to grey.
This yellow VU is an example of extreme fading.
It's a chemical reaction which I see on roadsigns all the time and those have not been there for 30 years.

I know I am right but it's ok if you disagree.

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Posted 12 September 2012 - 10:29 AM

Whatever, guys :D

Funny how nobody answered about bredgeo's M90 :)

I have only seen two M90s with black speakers. Either repainted or not factory.
My M90's woofers are grey too but I face it and don't betray myself into thinking it is oh-so-mint.
These units age with pride and it's ok if they fade to grey.
This yellow VU is an example of extreme fading.
It's a chemical reaction which I see on roadsigns all the time and those have not been there for 30 years.

I know I am right but it's ok if you disagree.


Max most of us grew up in the 70's and 80's and trust me there are different variations to many boxes. There are 2 color meters. Just as different models had different amp chips used. If you look you can see there are different model numbers to as seen in these pics. Some versions used 61 watts for input and some were 70 watts for input. Don't forget these were built for all around the world and had to be done so for each country. I know mine also has 15v jack for auto plug in when most are 12v.

Just because a couple ads only showed red meters and blue speakers doesn't mean that was the only variant ;-)
Sorry for bad quality of pics...

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Posted 12 September 2012 - 10:37 AM

This thread got funny :lol: :yes: .



Why havn't we seen ads for M71s or M75s??? :hmmm:

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Posted 12 September 2012 - 10:56 AM

I have two M-90's that have the red VU's with blue woofers. They are both equally as red with no signs of color fading as are the blue woofers, yet they came from different places with different listening environments.
The yellow M-90 that I posted a picture of in this thread earlier clearly has yellow meters with gray woofers. There is no mistaking that this looks faded. Having the three in front of me it clearly looks like JVC used 2 different colors with their M-90's!

But what do I know!!!!!

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Posted 12 September 2012 - 11:24 AM

I dont know about m90 ( and dont care actually, dont like m 90 at all :lol: ) but the red is the color which fade from the sun most of all others,( it is at the very end of the visible spectrum ). My father ( rest in peace) was collecting watches. A lot of diver watches use red on the hour points and it is very common for them to become yellow just after a year of using outside.... It is the same with some cars instruments as well. The wired thing is that the red is fading to perfect yellow without any shades. The spectrum of the sun light and the red color are long known for that. Actually after the redish colors next one which is fading fast is the blue color . So i think if we think about basic physical laws - fading of the m90 is plausible. Dont get me wrong. Im not saying that this is the case with m90 tho.
From other side - if the grayish speakers are faded they must have some issues with the sound too. The material should be slightly thinner already too :hmmm:
And i believe that there will be a lot of not known variants of any boomer popping up around. Some can be faded, modded and so on , but some will be original. Im curious how after 30 years some dj cd player collectors will make some tread about one pair of professionally modded pioneer players of mine. Damn i payed for the mod and cant believe that the color was not factory :lol: . All those color scheme combinations is like not good stamped post marks case for me - maybe not the perfect , but rare, interesting and highly hunted .

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Posted 12 September 2012 - 11:26 AM

Here is close up of my meters :-)

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