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#1 Superduper

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Posted 30 September 2011 - 11:27 PM

So Melly owns this fine example of the Montgomery Wards Airline GEN-3996 boombox.
But........... it has NO line-in, so NO aux playback feature. :dunce: :dunce:

We can fix that. We have the technology. So you know what comes next, right?

Here we go.

FIRST, here is the side panel where the line-in jack will be installed, right below the PHONE jack.
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Here is the backside of the I/O panel where the jack will be installed.
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The yellow and green wires will be removed from the connector (which plugs into the tuner). These wires terminate at the amp. New color correct yellow/green wires with new connector matching crimp connectors will be installed into the connector for a factory complete appearance. The new wires will go to the jack, which then returns to the amp through the old wires. Since the old wires are too short, the pigtailed ends (with connectors) will be inserted into new molex connectors with matching headers to extend the wires.
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Here are the pigtailed amp wires. No wires were harmed, err cut in this retrofit project, although a new ground wire will be soldered onto the bottom solder pad of the amp where the wire array is located.
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Newly installed jack on the left hand side, with the green/yellow wires
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A place for everything, and everything in it's place. Ahh, just how I like it. Who wants to tell me that the install doesn't look 100% factory?
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New jack installed. What it looks like. A handheld label printer would be real handy right about now to label the new line-in jack.
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ALL DONE.
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WATCH IT IN ACTION:
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#2 baddboybill

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Posted 30 September 2011 - 11:59 PM

Now that is real professional looking Norm :thumbsup: oh....and welcome back :-D

#3 monchito

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Posted 01 October 2011 - 08:09 AM

oh....and welcome back :agree: :agree: :agree: :agree: that is a nice one norm ....... :drool: :drool: :drool: :drool:

#4 Reli

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Posted 01 October 2011 - 08:56 AM

So the Aux In jacks don't work? :huh:

#5 Superduper

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Posted 01 October 2011 - 10:55 AM

So the Aux In jacks don't work? :huh:

Typical dumbed down line-ins.... Functions only as recording source only for the cassette.

#6 mellymelsr

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Posted 01 October 2011 - 12:16 PM

O.M.G. :w00t: ...fantastic work Norm! ...and I'm not saying that just because it's mine, but I am glad it is mine... :-D ... Those are some really nice L.E.D's. As usual your work is second to none. Everytime I see one of your projects I am amazed by your talent. I cannot thank you enough Norm...simply amazing work.

Just so everyone knows when I got this boombox it had a handful of issues. There was an awful electrical smell and humming noise when you plugged it in, the aux input (if you want to call it that) didn't work, the L.E.D's had a mind of there own and weren't very bright, and the radio stations were not tuning in clear stereo. In one fell swoop, Norm fixed all of these issues and added an aux input without a service manual. I am just thankful, not only to have someone like Norm as a friend, but that he shares his gift and takes many of these boomboxes and makes them better than they ever were. So Norm.... :thankyou: ...so very, very, very, very much.

#7 ClaretBadger

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Posted 02 October 2011 - 06:52 AM

GREAT WORK! :yes:

#8 mellymelsr

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Posted 03 October 2011 - 10:49 PM

GREAT WORK! :yes:


:yes: :yes: :yes: :yes: :agree:

#9 JLF

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Posted 04 October 2011 - 03:50 PM

Awesome mod!

So many killer boxes Ive owned over the years havent had this feature. Crazy.

You could just about sell this mod as a kit on ebay!

#10 Superduper

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Posted 04 October 2011 - 06:44 PM

You could just about sell this mod as a kit on ebay!


Nope. Each boombox has some differences so it's going to require customized installation on a case by case basis.

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Posted 06 October 2011 - 08:21 PM

I wish I was rich and could hire you full time! :w00t:

Top Notch work as always Norm!

Nice radio Melly :yes:

#12 mellymelsr

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Posted 07 October 2011 - 01:41 AM

I wish I was rich and could hire you full time! :w00t:

Top Notch work as always Norm!

Nice radio Melly :yes:


Thanks Chris...I am lucky enough to live only 30 minutes away from Norm... :-D

#13 Lasonic TRC-920

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Posted 07 October 2011 - 11:56 AM

I wish I was rich and could hire you full time! :w00t:

Top Notch work as always Norm!

Nice radio Melly :yes:


Thanks Chris...I am lucky enough to live only 30 minutes away from Norm... :-D


Your a lucky man to have Norm on the staff :lol:

More importantly, there is no shipping radio's to him for repair and risking them getting trashed. Norm and I have spoken about some projects, but I'm too scared they might get trashed....

I might take a drive up in the spring. We'll see. If so, would be great to meet you as well....

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Posted 07 October 2011 - 12:09 PM

Ahhhh, I was wondering the same thing why he didn't use the aux jacks...... Looks factory for sure.

#15 mellymelsr

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Posted 07 October 2011 - 09:16 PM

Ahhhh, I was wondering the same thing why he didn't use the aux jacks...... Looks factory for sure.


The factory aux jacks are recording input jacks only...no sound comes through the speakers. He added a separate jack to avoid any chopping or cutting of factory wires. I am not sure why these inputs were designed this way...seems like a waste, thank goodness I have a friend like Norm... :-D

#16 mellymelsr

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Posted 07 October 2011 - 09:19 PM

I wish I was rich and could hire you full time! :w00t:

Top Notch work as always Norm!

Nice radio Melly :yes:


Thanks Chris...I am lucky enough to live only 30 minutes away from Norm... :-D


Your a lucky man to have Norm on the staff :lol:

More importantly, there is no shipping radio's to him for repair and risking them getting trashed. Norm and I have spoken about some projects, but I'm too scared they might get trashed....

I might take a drive up in the spring. We'll see. If so, would be great to meet you as well....


...I would be happy to stop by for a mini-Cali-boombox meet.... :thumbsup: ...just let me know when and I'm there.

#17 Maxx134

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Posted 14 July 2012 - 10:26 AM

OMG that box looks sooo beautiful! wow I never knew so many beautiful boxes existed before so its really great to see this one restored :)

Hey "Lasonic TRC-920" is that a real box in your profile pic, or photoshoped? :)

#18 AE_Stereo

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Posted 10 February 2013 - 10:59 AM

Ahhhh, I was wondering the same thing why he didn't use the aux jacks...... Looks factory for sure.


The factory aux jacks are recording input jacks only...no sound comes through the speakers. He added a separate jack to avoid any chopping or cutting of factory wires. I am not sure why these inputs were designed this way...seems like a waste, thank goodness I have a friend like Norm... :-D


With this deck there was no need of fixing an extra Line-In jack. The Line in will work with the Record button pressed on - right?

You only need to find a plug that will go into the Remote Socket along with mics (roughly half the size of a 3.5mm Headphone jack, but in mono).
When the plug pin is inserted into the Remote socket, the power to the motor is cut off. (In fact the power to the motor goes through the pin now. If you short the pin terminals, motor will get power).

So with the pin inserted into the remote, plug the external source into the built in Line-In RCA sockets. Press Pause on first and then Record+Play buttons to switch on the stereo. (You may have to open the cassette door and release the Erase Tab protection switch or insert a cassette with Leader tape at the visible position to press the Record button).

There is nothing to wear out now. I don't think there is any other damage while keeping the play button pressed along with Pause On and motor not running. A cassette deck is designed to work so for 30 years (that is why we are able to talk about it now).

#19 peksy24

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Posted 15 April 2018 - 09:07 AM

NIce



#20 T-STER

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Posted 15 April 2018 - 03:43 PM

NIce

 I love that your very first post was not something like an introduction, or a poignant statement or a picture of a cool box, it was to say "nice" on a five year old post. Way to go great entrance  :sadno:



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Posted 15 April 2018 - 04:20 PM

:lol: 



#22 BoomboxLover48

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Posted 15 April 2018 - 08:07 PM

Nice to see some fantastic mods from the Genius Norm!  :yes:  :rock:



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Posted 25 June 2018 - 03:50 PM

I've just gotten one of these for Father's Day. My wife is amazing! I'm looking forward to getting into this one :)

I got mine and I've been cleaning it up. I'd LOVE to do this mod. Is there a video of this? Do you still do these mods for people?
Here's what I get when I try to watch the video. I was wondering, on your mod, when you plug something into your new port does it just play on the speakers without having to switch anything? I've noticed that there isn't a switch anywhere for the aux in functions. I get it that the tape deck is required to make that work. My tape deck is just shutting off every time I push down the PLAY button. So, the record and play won't work either.

I've cleaned up the pot's so it isn't making that hideous scratchy sound anymore and the stereo is tuning in to stations beautifully now too. Very happy with the sound and MY GOD it's a beautiful box. I LOVE when they have their controls on the front.

I'm trying to be more tech savvy and understand this stuff. I've really gotten out of my comfort zone with these artifacts and have learned so much already.

Thanks in advance for any help with this.

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Posted 28 June 2018 - 12:08 AM

The mod switches out the radio for the aux-in. In other words, on radio mode, simply plug in an external source and it will play instead of the radio. It’s probably best to have a local tech do the mod for you. Shipping costs in recent years have really escalated to where it becomes impractical to ship an item like this for remote repair or mods. For this mod, tape function is not necessary unless you want to see the led meters illuminated because those meters are for tape function.

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Posted 28 June 2018 - 04:43 AM

Thanks Super.

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Posted 14 July 2019 - 12:31 PM

Quick question does anyone know when unit is in power off mode is the power led still supposed to be lit up? Thank you

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Posted 18 July 2019 - 10:41 PM

When mine powers off the power led goes off as well.

#28 Reli

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Posted 19 July 2019 - 03:45 AM

The mod switches out the radio for the aux-in. In other words, on radio mode, simply plug in an external source and it will play instead of the radio. It’s probably best to have a local tech do the mod for you. Shipping costs in recent years have really escalated to where it becomes impractical to ship an item like this for remote repair or mods. For this mod, tape function is not necessary unless you want to see the led meters illuminated because those meters are for tape function.

 

If you insert a blank tape and press Record, the meters will work.  You don't need to press Record + Play on this box.



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Posted 19 July 2019 - 10:13 AM

When mine powers off the power led goes off as well.


On battery mode it powers off and so does LED. Deck works good on battery mode but FM doesn’t come in. On AC everything works but LED don’t shut off when power is in off position

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Posted 20 July 2019 - 02:21 AM

On battery mode and ac mode my led goes off when powered off.